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liz slater · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject:

Actually Michele in my case it was a breeder I had made contact with quite a while ago and had corresponded with and yes I most definitely did a lot of research beforehand. Anyone that knows me knows I don't buy on a whim.
She had very good quality cats from top lines over there.
There was absolutely no reason for me or the other breeder who lost money to suspect a problem.
I don't know if there is any way that buyers can be absolutely certain of the person they are dealing with in another country. I just want people to be aware there are risks involved. It has certainly made me wary.
Having said that I have imported a few Bengals and have nothing but praise for their breeders who have been wonderful and sent quality cats to me.

Regards

Liz

junglerose · Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:11 am Post subject:

The two breeders in question who seem to have committed the "fraud" are breeders who have been around for a long time, hence there was no clue beforehand for breeders in this country wanting to import a beautiful cat from as Liz said top quality lines.
Six months is a long time to wait for a kitten to import, and although they may have been quite honest at the start then you do not know what befell them in the intervening months.

This is not a case of a "breeder" setting up a site, taking the money and disappearing off the face of the earth all in the course of a few short weeks. No, these are "established" breeders who seem to have "turned bad". Not something you can easily insure yourself against.

Dreadful. Mad

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liz slater · Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:06 am Post subject:

Thank you Elaine,

Very well put. I only posted on here to warn people to be careful. There are a lot of people suffering hardship because of the current economic climate overseas as well.

I think it is quite possible that the breeders in question found themselves in financial difficulty. I don't think the intention was to defaud but that doesn't make it any easier if you are the one who has lost money.

Regards

Liz

www.junglefirebengals.co.uk

trocadero · Senior Bengal Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 51

The site seems to be up and running now:
http://www.marble-bengals.com/queens.htm

You can report internet fraud here: http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx I'm not sure how useful it will be. Have you telephoned Carrera? I would even consider calling the police in her town. They might be able to suggest something.

Ultimately, I think the Paypal and credit card options are your best bet.

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OMG why is she still being allowed to do it?

frenchhorn34 · Asian Leopard Cat Joined: 03 Sep 2008 Posts: 283

Go to the police, they helped my Brother when something like this happened to him ( not with bengals though )
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ceciliaolucifer · Bengal Kitten Joined: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 5

Hi everyone,

Paypal couldnt help us because the time had expierd.

I tried to call her aswell but to no success, the number i had didnt work due to delayed payment.

Gosh Sad

abooksigun · Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject:

Oh no I'm so sorry Sad

I hope that you do eventually get this sorted my fingers are crossed
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sue · Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject:

there must be other avenues open, try the police, go to the papers, when we part with money in good faith we expect what we have paid for be that a kitten or a box of matches. We all are suffering money is tight, but that does not mean we have to cause more by being dishonest with others. Don't give up..... you will be fighting for yourself and others, oh and have another go with paypal sometimes if you nag them they will try and help.

sue

ceciliaolucifer · Bengal Kitten Joined: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 5

Does anyone know how i can find a numberdatabase in the Usa?

In sweden we have sites where we can look up ppl to find their adress or numbers just by typing their name and number?

I dont even know how to find out her nearest policestation Sad

ceciliaolucifer · Bengal Kitten Joined: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 5

And i have also checked with TIBCS and she didnt renew her membership so they cant help me Sad

cootersmom · Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:28 am Post subject:

You can try http://www.yellowpages.com or http://www.whitepages.com. If she is unlisted or has a cell phone number you will not be able to find her number. Hope this helps. Confused

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ginnym · Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:55 am Post subject:

Katie · Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:06 am Post subject:

I don't know if this helps..

http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=www.marble-bengals.com&tld=com

Any website has to be registered and registration details are freely available. There is a phone number but it could just be a dead number?
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cgoodall · Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: