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Bloody poo.....help? UPDATED
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ginnym
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sending cyber hugs too. It's understandable that you're still worried but at least you've got an answer and it's something that's treatable - that's got to be more positive than having no diagnosis.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ren,
I've calmed down now, gong to watch I'm a Celebrity and chill out.

So grateful for all the information on this site, our vets, who are great, hadn't heard of TF before this. I had asked specifically for the test, I would never have known to do so, if I hadn't read the links on this site.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry to hear Max has TF but as been said at least you now know what the problem is & it is treatable. I have treated TF myself. Just make sure that your vets work out the dosage at 30mg per Kg of bodyweight, I'm sure they will & please keep us updated.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TF is SO common, and it is so very easily treatable. Please, please don't hesitate to PM me if you have any worries or concerns.

I just hope that more breeders will start testing their breeding cats for TF now with the number of pets suffering from the parasite on this forum alone. It will save the kittens from suffering, and in very young kittens diarrhoea can potentially be fatal.
No kitten/cat deserves to be going through this, or the poor owner/s of course.

Too many breeders still seem to be turning a blind eye to TF, and this just isn't right. These health issues need to be addressed in catteries, before any more litters are produced and needlessly affected!

Good luck Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit worrying that vets seem to be so unaware of it. Is TF common in all cats or is it mainly found in certain breeds?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was also wondering something about TF- is it something that will just resolve itself if left untreated? The article in the sticky thread made it seem that it would just go away on its own after 9months-2 years. Obviously we don't want to be leaving our poor kitties untreated if they are sick, and diarrhea can have serious side effects. However, I am curious if this is something that will go away with time (incase it is missed in detection).
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely wrote:
I was also wondering something about TF- is it something that will just resolve itself if left untreated? The article in the sticky thread made it seem that it would just go away on its own after 9months-2 years. Obviously we don't want to be leaving our poor kitties untreated if they are sick, and diarrhea can have serious side effects. However, I am curious if this is something that will go away with time (incase it is missed in detection).


Yes apparently it can resolve itself but it can take some time. But you don't want to let them continue with bloody diarrhea for a long time.

Our vet is concerned with Max as he has both Giardia and TF and he still has diarrhea after an initial 7 days treatment. He's on a second higher dose to try and clear it up. All are being treated for the Giardia. The Ronidazole needs a special licence so we need to wait for that. And for Jasmin's TF results.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jules wrote:

Yes apparently it can resolve itself but it can take some time. But you don't want to let them continue with bloody diarrhea for a long time.

Our vet is concerned with Max as he has both Giardia and TF and he still has diarrhea after an initial 7 days treatment. He's on a second higher dose to try and clear it up. All are being treated for the Giardia. The Ronidazole needs a special licence so we need to wait for that. And for Jasmin's TF results.


Thanks for the answer. Smile

I hope your poor little guy gets better soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our little guys Trey & Anastasia recently developed the same problem Crying or Very sad I spoke with our breeder & it turns out it's my fault. I was feeding them a whole can more than they should have for a couple days. When we got them she had also given us a few brands of food that they like, & I had read that cats tend to like variety but failed to realize that switching foods around immediatly will tend to do this to a kitten (especially a Bengal!) She also said, which was very comforting, that it's extremely common (again, especially with a Bengal!!) and after putting them back on the right diet, the problem should correct itself in a few days. It is SCARY when your quickly falling in love with the little ones & you see them pooping blood Crying or Very sad It almost brought me to tears when I found out it was my fault.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just been searching for some threads on this to get an idea of what it could be.

Zion has had soft to runny poo on and off. I have been putting it down to his picky eating - sometimes he wont eat the raw meat, and I give him a pouch and is seems to be the pouches that give him diarrhoea. However, Tigra just used the tray and had semi soft poo - with a considerable amount of (fresh) blood and this is a first. she seemed a little upset when she went, and also didn't seem sure whether to cover it or not (she always does) and then didn't and walked off. She has been really playful as normal today, and is back to playing again now as nothing is wrong.

There is no blood in Zion's poo, and Bilbo and Azlan are normal solid. (I can't believe I'm writing a post talking about the consistency of all my cats poos!! Laughing Laughing ) I'm guessing I'd better get all my cats tested now? I hope this isn't an emergency though (in Tigra's case) - do you think it can wait until the vets are open again after Christmas? Or should I go to the Christmas out of hours?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thundercat wrote:
I've just been searching for some threads on this to get an idea of what it could be.

Zion has had soft to runny poo on and off. I have been putting it down to his picky eating - sometimes he wont eat the raw meat, and I give him a pouch and is seems to be the pouches that give him diarrhoea. However, Tigra just used the tray and had semi soft poo - with a considerable amount of (fresh) blood and this is a first. she seemed a little upset when she went, and also didn't seem sure whether to cover it or not (she always does) and then didn't and walked off. She has been really playful as normal today, and is back to playing again now as nothing is wrong.

There is no blood in Zion's poo, and Bilbo and Azlan are normal solid. (I can't believe I'm writing a post talking about the consistency of all my cats poos!! Laughing Laughing ) I'm guessing I'd better get all my cats tested now? I hope this isn't an emergency though (in Tigra's case) - do you think it can wait until the vets are open again after Christmas? Or should I go to the Christmas out of hours?



Is everything else normal? eating drinking ok? playing? urinating?
Can you feed some boiled chicken for a couple of days to the affected two? or if you have to, to them all. Keep the diet very simple, no treats or extras. Only the chicken and be sure it's boiled not raw. See how they get on from there and if after three days there is no sign of change then I would have them in the vets and get a fecal sample taken. Just be sure they take a fresh one with a loop and not one you've brought in. If they show signs of normality after the couple of days of chicken. Feed the chicken for another day or so and start to incorporate their regular diet gradually. Stick to one thing, not different things and offer it with the boiled chicken the first couple of days.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips Steph,

Everything else was normal. Thankfully Tigra's poo is back to normal for now too whilst she is on boiled chicken, although I am keeping a close eye on it, and ready to take her to the vets if it returns. Zion's is still variable - he wouldn't eat the boiled chicken. I'm keeping an eye on him and going to get him vet checked when he is back in for his next bauble exam and possible op next week if he doesn't urgently need to go back in before then. He is so full of life and mischief.
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