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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:49 pm 
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You need to wait until they are around 6 months.

EDIT: I stand corrected, I don't know why I just assumed this!


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it varies. All of the major professional veterinarian associations in the US and Canada say that 12 weeks and on is fine but you will likely be hard pressed to find a vet that will do it that early. Vets typical, in my experience, prefer to wait till 6 to 7 months of age and when questioned tell me it is simply easier to do the surgery then as the cat is more developed.

There have been a number of large scale long term studies done and the cat suffer no issues behaviorally or physically from early neutering/spaying.

I do find it odd that so many are in disagreement with the organizations that over sees their schooling/training and licensing. I have resisted from asking if they prefer the later dates due to skill issues :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:55 pm 
Some cats go into maturity from 4 months though, so i've read on the net so what if say a boy cat does then is neutured at 6 months, that means he will spay even when fixed wouldn't it?

Gosh i'm never going to calm down with all the excitement, I don't know if i can wait until the end of November until I get my baby kitten :cry:


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If he becomes mature before 6 months and starts spraying, then in my experience most vets will neuter early (my vet says any time after 4 months). A male shouldn't spray after he's been neutered even if he's become mature before the op.

Sometimes males (and females) will still territory mark after being neutered/spayed but that's a behavioural thing rather than hormonal :)

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kimberley wrote:
Jim wrote:
Yes its common practice with most breeders, if you have bought the Bengal as a pet they wil withhold the papers until you have had the kitten nuetered or spayed & a letter comfirming that is sent from the vet to the breeder.

Jim


Thanks Jim, how soon can you get them done, is 14 weeks too early?

Hi Kimberley..
Our vet neuters boys at 14/15 weeks no problem..
its all down the personal preference of yourself and your vet..
Ours is completely healthy and also does very well at shows too...
( thats the cat not the vet :lol: )


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kimberley wrote:
how soon can you get them done, is 14 weeks too early?

I don't know if there are restrictions in the UK, but the local rescue her has kittens spayed/neutered before they are adopted out which can be as early as two months old. The requirements are that the animals must be at least 8 weeks old and weigh at least 2 lbs prior to surgery. So I guess 14 weeks is not too young but it depends on the weight and whether your can find a vet that will do early spay/neuter.

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Thank you everyone, i'm preparing a little menu with all your info on here to keep for when I get my baby :D


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In australia, vets will desex cats from about 10 weeks. It freaked me out at first when our breeder said she was having my girl done at 10 weeks to ensure that she had recovered well prior to placement in our home, but she's absolutely fine.

Early desexing really does make it so much easier for breeders to ensure that pet and show only cats don't get used for nefarious breeding purposes.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:44 pm 
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Early desexing really does make it so much easier for breeders to ensure that pet and show only cats don't get used for nefarious breeding purposes.


I agree, when I was looking on Google for my future kitten I looked on Gumtree and Ad trader etc, there are loads on there selling Bengal crosses and some crosses were over £200 :shock:

I then came across with a Bengal kitten list of breeders in the Uk, thats where I saw the advert website for my chosen breeder, i'm still waiting for when she tells me the queen is pregnant :D

so thats how I decided to go for a pedigree rather then give money to those who are only interested in money and not the breed.

I then thought i'd look for a forum and Google led me to this site

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1) I got two kittens, they are 13 weeks old and they have that 'sparring' with each other, one of the reasons we decided to get two, to save our arms etc..lol it is normal for them to spar, they would in the wild too, its an instinct and its just play practise for when they have to go hunting.

2) Our breeder used to give out all papers, until she found out a female bought a kitten and now breeds from her, this same female lives in a flat and sells her kittens for £250. to me she is as bad as BYBing. My breeder now waits until you can prove the kittens have been neutered/spayed.

your kitten will love to have play fights. our moggie still did it at 16yrs old especially with my husband, he always had scratches from her.


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When a breeder registers a litter of kittens with GCCF, if they are intended for the pet market that are overstamped non active on the reg slip so no litters can be registered with the GCCF from these pet cats. Same with TICA you can put S or N in the kittens sex box or mark them "not for breeding".

Withholding registration paperwork will not stop people from breeding from pet registered cats if that is what they intend to do. That's why these cheap bengal kittens have no registration paperwork. The parents were not supposed to be bred from.


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