My poor hands he's so rough and his teeth are like mini Jaggers we do trim his nails but it's not cutting it I may look into the soft paws for this but it's the biting he's not aggressive just rough?

With young bengals, you are going to get scratched up. It's just part of the deal. But he should be learning over time that it hurts you and he should be doing it less and less. If you communicate to him that it hurts and makes you unhappy, and that games and attention stop when he does that, he will learn over time.

But here's what I don't get... how is he beating up your hands? Under what circumstance is he scratching or biting your hands? That really shouldn't happen, unless as part of an "accident". Legs, arms, and feet, yes, but hands no. If you or a member of your household is ever playing with a bengal with hands being the thing that they chase, like "prey" (like I see a lot of non-cat people do), you really can't afford to ever do that with bengals, it has to always be with toys, not body parts. Otherwise they are learning the potentially disasterous lesson that your hands are toys and prey, which won't end well.

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I adopted my kittens at 4 months. I had scratches all over. They would run all over me like I was a playground. My skin is thin and sensitive so I decided to try Soft Paws and they worked great. My kittens could knead me without poking holes in my skin and no more scratches. An experienced vet groomer has to apply them. I think it was about $40 per cat, but they last for about 5 weeks. I had them put on at about 5 months and after that I just brought them in for monthly nail trims until about a year and a half. Now I don't trim their nails at all and they are very careful not to scratch me. One cat is more careful than the other and I still consider having her nails trimmed, but they need them to climb their towers and I don't want them to slip because their nals are trimmed.

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He gets us when we don't expect it we will be petting him and he will catch eye of this tail moving and in the process of getting his tail he gets us, or when we're petting he will turn around and try to start playing rough with our hands. We immediately stop giving him attention and if he continues we put him on the ground.

Hopefully, you are spending a huge amount of time playing with him by dangling toys in front of him or having him chase toys. Kittens are super playful and they want to play every waking minute, so YOU have to keep them occupied. You need to always have a toy by your side and distract your kitty. Human interaction is great, but your kitty needs to associate the petting with not wanting to engage in play. It's complicated because we've all had kittens and we've all had our share of bites and scratches from them.

Hmm, I'm not sure that is playing actually. A cat who does that is (one moment is calm and being petted, then wheels around and bites the hand of their human) often is either over-stimulated (from repeated long, full body pets) or is just not liking being touched where (or how) you are touching him (it could even mean he has a spot that is sore).

Take stock of exactly what you were doing next time he does this.

Other than that, it sounds like you are doing the right things. Having "kicker toys" helps a little with their need to wrap their paws around something and kick, and other interactive games (with you) also help them get that out of their system. If you are training them right, he should be pretty much done with the biting/scratching you by 6mo or so in my experience. Certainly by 1 year. But it does take time.

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Raiden loves his kicker toys and his cat wheel. He spent quite a bit of time walking on the wheel this morning. Unfortunately, that still does not wear him out!