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 Post subject: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:54 am 
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We will be bringing home our first Bengal kitten in a few weeks time. After visiting breeder, and seeing just how much love and care they gave to their cats and kittens, how adorable, playful and stunning beautiful and healthy they looked, lots of questions to the breeders, and research, the obvious pleasure the breeders got from breeding their cats, we decided on a female breeder :) I've read the article on here regarding breeding, and realise it's not going to be all fun, expensive, and could be heartache too.

I work part time from home carrying out admin duties for husbands business, so cat/kittens would not be left alone for long periods. More importantly looking after newborn kittens with mum would need me to be around 24/7

I'm prepared for hard work, dedication, and sleepless nights looking after Bengals, in return for fun, and hopefully love and affection from them.

We have got a very much loved DSH ginger neutered tom who we've had for 12 years since he was a kitten. We'll be keeping the new kitten in a separate part of house to begin with, and will try a very slow introduction and hope they eventually accept each other.

We did adopt an orphan DSH tabby kitten last year from RSPCA, who sadly got out one night and was killed. She was only 8 months old and we'd had her from 10 weeks old. Our older Tom accepted her to the extent that he would allow her to play fight with him each morning and each evening only. He would hiss at her any other time and she soon learnt to respect his wishes. When they did play together, they were so funny. She would lay hiding in wait ready to surprise and pounce on him. I have lots of videos of them together. She was a very, very playful kitten, and we were devastated when she died. After, our Tom cat continued to look for her each morning and evening, running madly up and down the stairs on his own. I swear it was her spirit that he was chasing :/

My husband had always liked the look and temperament of Bengals, so after lots of research, and YouTube videos we decided a Bengal was for us. Found a reputable breeder and now can't wait to bring our baby home.

As well as advice from breeders, I will be visiting this forum often too :)


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:45 pm 
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Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your upcoming arrival. You will be undertaking a huge responsibility in breeding. Take tips from the breeder you are getting your girl from. That's how a breeder should be! And that's the type of breeder you will want to be. Your will have happier owners in the long wrong, plus happy, healthy kittens.


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:10 pm 
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Why do you want to breed them?


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:28 pm 
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Martyn wrote:
Why do you want to breed them?

I can understand wanting to do it at least once. My mother bought a show cat from a breeder (blue point Siamese) and we did the show circuit for about a year. Then she had the cat mated with another show cat at the breeders house. Elisabeth had two kittens. One was given as stud fee and the other kitten became our family pet for 18 years. I still remember the kittens' birth. I have a pastel drawing on the wall of my guest room of those two kittens that I drew as a girl. It was a really wonderful experience we enjoyed as a family.

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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:25 am 
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Sherry wrote:
Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your upcoming arrival. You will be undertaking a huge responsibility in breeding. Take tips from the breeder you are getting your girl from. That's how a breeder should be! And that's the type of breeder you will want to be. Your will have happier owners in the long wrong, plus happy, healthy kittens.


Thank you :)


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:26 am 
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Martyn wrote:
Why do you want to breed them?



Well, it's definitely not for money. Because any money we make on selling kittens would probably not even cover what we'll have spent on looking after her. We've not even got her yet, and we've spent a lot of money travelling miles to visit her, and just getting our home ready for her to live in with us :)

I'm reading everything I can to do with Bengals at the moment. Everything about them fascinates us. Their looks and extremely playful nature. We've fallen in love with Bengals.

We've seen how much our breeder loves and adores their Bengals. How dedicated to the breed they are. Seeing how much pleasure and joy they get from them. Knowing the joy, sleepless nights, and emotion they got from helping their cats birth their kittens, and more sleepless nights keeping an eye on mum and her babies. The heartache and worry when one of their cats had to have emergency caesarian. The sadness when a couple of kittens didn't make it from the operation. The time consumed looking after the growing kittens. Satisfaction of seeing them thrive and grow. Watching their mum nurturing them.

Did I mention the fun?

We've visited several times, and sat on floor surrounded by 6 gorgeous, playful kittens, and their mums, getting to know them. We were in cat heaven :) Our breeders live and breathe Bengals.

We hadn't intended breeding, but after our visits, and hearing about their experience of breeding. We must have sounded keen, and were offered the opportunity to consider a breeding kitten.

They will, and have already started mentoring us. They are now our friends and we're part of their Bengal cat family :)

Breeding will enable us to introduce people in our area to amazing Bengals, and offer them the opportunity to have the pleasure of owning/breeding and looking after them too.

It's going to be an exciting roller coaster of a ride hobby. We're prepared for the life change :)


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:50 pm 
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Your life will definitely change with a queen and kittens. A good breeder spares no expense to make sure the kittens are healthy. There are weekly weigh-ins to keep track of so you'll need a scale. It will definitely be an experience! Familiarize yourself with the laws as to where bengals are outlawed! Yes, there are some places where you cannot have a hybrid of any type! You don't want to ship to one of those areas -- if you even get into shipping at all. Prospective owners should visit the cattery -- just as you've been doing. At least you'll have some time to prepare after your little one gets home.


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:30 pm 
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It all sounds good. But I do think you would be sensible to live with them first. They are fabulous animals, no doubt, but they are very different from a regular moggie. Like any kitten, they are very demanding, very high energy and often very naughty. But where a moggie will usually calm down after 12 months or so, a bengal will carry on like that for about 10 years. A lot of people seem to have a romantic idea of them and in many ways, they live up to it and more. But they can also be very challenging. A lot of people do seem to find them very hard to live with and as a result, a lot seem to end up in rescue or for re-homing. IMO I think the bengal particularly, is a breed you would be prudent to exercise a little caution with, maybe live with one for a while to see if the reality lives up to the ideal. Just my 2 penneth.


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:47 pm 
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Great advice, Martyn. A bengal is definitely not like any other breed of cat. Mine is 8 years old and has so much energy that he wears ME out. I would never breed a queen in her first heat anyway .... so this would give more time to make sure breeding and caring for a few kittens is what you want to do. You'll have to familiarize yourself with TICA as well if you're wanting to register your litter.


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:27 pm 
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We will be taking advice from our mentor on breeding and stud.

We won't be breeding her until after 12 months of age.

We've discussed TICA too. It's all in hand.

We have an outbuilding in our garden that has just been converted in to a garden room. But its now looking like this will be her cat house too. As well as living in our home. We realise how naughty they can be. We're prepared. We've researched them for awhile. Our last kitten was very naughty and playful, and she brought so much fun into our home.

Our older gorgeous much loved moggie sleeps all day with the odd time where he will come for a cuddle on our knee, but hasn't played since he was a kitten. Apart from when he would chase our last kitten up and down the stairs.

We await our whirlwind to come and take over our home.

Appreciate all your advice though. What you've all said is what our breeders have also told us :)


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:41 pm 
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Can I ask if any of you breed? And if so, why you decided to breed?


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:33 pm 
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There are a handful of breeders on here, however, most do not check in frequently. It sounds as if you've done your research and you're prepared to take on the responsibility.


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:25 am 
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Sherry wrote:
There are a handful of breeders on here, however, most do not check in frequently. It sounds as if you've done your research and you're prepared to take on the responsibility.


I'm enjoying browsing on this forum. Counting down the days to our life change :)

We have been visiting her every couple of weeks, and the breeders have been showing videos of her with her siblings. We love watching her grow and play. She'll be nearly 14 weeks old when we collect her to bring home. As we'd already pre booked our holiday, our breeder was happy holding onto her for the extra two weeks until we get back. They get very attached to their kittens and are always sad to see them go. They do keep in touch with owners and have updates on all of their kittens :)


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:36 am 
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Kajay wrote:
They get very attached to their kittens and are always sad to see them go. They do keep in touch with owners and have updates on all of their kittens :)


Getting attached is the reason I could never be a breeder. I would hate to part with them and I would end up with a house full of cats that I didn't really want. At the end of the day, no matter how much you romanticise it, if you are breeding them, then they are a commodity and you have to sell them. You have a short window of opportunity to sell them, because people want kittens, not adolescents or adult cats. So you cant really afford to be too choosy about who buys them. You also have to remember they are not children. once you have sold them, you have no rights over them whatsoever. I would imagine the vast majority of new owners never have any further contact with the breeder once the cats have gone to their new homes. More to the point, the breeder has no right to ask for, or expect any contact. I'm sure it's nice when it happens, but it's surely the exception rather than the rule. The queens and sires are also not pets. They have to be kept under optimal breeding conditions, which means you cant ever let the queens free roam and obviously the toms need to be kept in an enclosure outside. That's not really the kind of relationship I want with them.

The other issue is that unless you are doing it on a fairly large scale, you are unlikely to make any money at it. If you are showing them, then breeding is perhaps a way of getting a regular supply of show cats and perhaps partly covering costs, but even that involves a fairly huge commitment. It seems easy on the face of it, but to do it well involves a lot of work, a massive commitment, quite a lot of heartache and little financial reward.


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie to Bengals
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:35 pm 
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Full time breeding is a business -- with a website and a Facebook page. For just one litter, it may be fine! Martyn is absolutely correct. You're getting this kitten to be a pet AND breed and, really, that's two different scenarios. It will be hard to blend the two. I admire you for wanting to take the responsibility on -- but I'm sure your breeder makes it look easy when it's really not. Hopefully, there are no complications with the queen -- that can get very costly, so I'd make sure to have a few $$$ set aside for things that come up with the mother and babies.


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