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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:38 pm 
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http://www.wired.com/2014/10/cat-thinks-youre-huge-unpredictable-ape/


Interesting little article! Thoughts?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:30 am 
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Huge Unpredictable Ape: I dunno... it's still training through negative reinforcement, and the fear and confusion and all that will still be present, the only difference I can see is that it might not be associated with the human but with the environment itself. Doesn't seem like much of an improvement to me... Would the writer like it if he was trained by a series of booby-traps going off on him constantly?

The rest of the article I agree with, and seems to be pretty standard stuff.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:49 am 
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I think the point was to make changes to the environment and use positive reinforcement, as opposed to negative reinforcement only, which is how most people operate regarding unwanted cat behavior.

The ape comment made me laugh because I thought of my husband yelling and stomping around when Yoshi was a kitten and would attack his feet and toes when he wasn't paying attention. The little brat sliced the skin between his toes more times than I can count. He never touched my feet thoigh...:biggrin:

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:58 am 
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neonyellowclover wrote:
I think the point was to make changes to the environment and use positive reinforcement, as opposed to negative reinforcement only, which is how most people operate regarding unwanted cat behavior.


This is what I was referring to:
“The way to train a cat is through their environment,” Buffington said. For example, put two-sided tape on the corner of your couch, or tinfoil on the kitchen counter."

So it's really the same sort of idea as delivering an electric shock or something similar.

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The ape comment made me laugh because I thought of my husband yelling and stomping around when Yoshi was a kitten and would attack his feet and toes when he wasn't paying attention. The little brat sliced the skin between his toes more times than I can count. He never touched my feet thoigh...:biggrin:


Yea, I appreciated that metaphor. And I think it's spot on. I have to admit that sometimes it helps my sanity to be the dumb, loud, unpredictable ape though :lol: Like when Serafina decides that she has to leap up to the top of the highest bookshelf, and a few minutes later decides that was a bad idea and not the place she wants to be, and the only way down is to leap from there down on top of the recliner which I'm occupying, which sometimes has a startling and painful result (for me). But yea, too much of that certainly doesn't help in the cat-relations department, that's for sure...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:08 pm 
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I'm going to try the tin foil on the counter top. The squirt gun is not working. I bet they just play with the tin foil though.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:55 pm 
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Basically, these things are things jackson Galaxy has been saying for years, so I didn't learn anything new. But, it's great that this is all being said. However, Raiden exposes his belly ALL the time and he wants, no insists, that you kneel down and rub it over and over again. He LOVES tummy rubs, although he is the only cat I've ever had that did not immediately wrap their claws around your hand and bite it.

Thanks to the internet there is so much information out there. I truly didn't know how to deal with cats until this last one. Not one ever had a cat tree as they were mainly outdoor cats. I really didn't know their personalities. I've delved into bengal ownership with vengeance and keep trying to learn more and more about cats in general. Articles like this one really do help.


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