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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:28 pm 
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please dont put your cat through the torture of shows etc.
Let her be a happy cat who is enjoying her cat life rather than sit in the cage for hours with lot of people looking at her like an exhibit.

I never understood the purpose of the shows for cats. Who are these people and cats who actually enjoy any of it??
thats my opinion , anyway .


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no, but I have seen pictures and videos. its looks chaos and cages to me. sorry !
maybe, for breeding purposes you may need some exchange of information which you may obtain from meetings with other breeders and their cats at the show.
but other than that - why would you put your cat through that ?


A lot has been covered already. Firstly though, you actually told Binx not to put your cat through the torture of shows etc. Apparently, though you have never been, it is chaos and the cats sit in a cage with lots of people looking at them.

Well, seeing as you have never been to a show, you will not be aware that it is never really chaotic except maybe at the Supreme Car show. There are never masses of people staring at the cats in cages at the normal shows as public entries are actually fairly low. There is minimal photography at shows as you are asked not to take photographs without the owners permission and they are rarely filmed. So I'm not entirely sure what stuff you are referring to and how you can tell things are chaotic from a still I shall never know.

Showing is a very important part of the breeding of pedigree cats. But not only pedigree cats attend shows, there is always a section for the household cat.

I went to a fair few shows before getting all of my cats, to meet breeders and see the lovely cats. I met and liaised with breeders and formed friendships that have led to mentorship. I actually met my breeding mentor on this forum, I then met her several times at cat shows before selecting e lovely Toby and being talked into having Lily to start my breeding programme. I could not show my current Tonkinese as they are not eligible, Toby I took once as a pedigree pet but he hated it so we never took him again. Last year we kept a girl from our litter who was eligible to be shown. She loved it. Purrs and purrs when people come to judge her. She has come 1st in all of her open classes bar her very first when she was eligible by 2 days so very young and green. She won best Tonkinese kitten in show at the Tonkinese breed club show which actually made me cry I was so proud :!: :oops: she LOVES the attention she gets. I met Claire (Lacemoat) at a show and I also met Shebajet. May have met more of the Bengal breeders but I'm useless with names :roll: I was planning to take Pip to a show last weekend but it was cancelled because of the snow and I was gutted!

It is one thing having an opinion, but another to try and persuade others when your opinion is not based on anything concrete at all. Maybe you should actually go and visit a cat show and see this 'chaos' for yourself. All you will see is happy cats willing to parade in front of you or sleepy cats curled up in a ball. Some cats like to hide under a blanket when they go to sleep to shut out noise but mostly to shut out the bright lights. Plus, a lot of owners, after Open judging has taken place (in GCCF shows) sit by the cage with it open so their cat can climb onto their lap. That's where Pippa was when Shebajet found us at the Supreme Cat show in November.

It is worth remembering that at lot of pedigree cats wouldn't exist if it wasn't for showing as that is why a lot of breeders breed, so they can forward their chosen breed to get the best example possible.

Worth also adding that their are a few different cat groups in the UK with which to show. GCCF and TICA are the most popular. They are very different types of shows though.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:03 pm 
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alright then , glad everyone here agrees that cats can be happy in a pen . Not going to debate about it though. I guess I just have a different perception of a happy cat and i will stick to it .

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:10 pm 
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Oh brill - I'm sure you will love it - and if not just chalk it down to experience lol.

That's great your breeder is going to help you (she is a lovely lady I've chatted with at a few shows now :wink: :D )

- Hopefully our paths will cross at one. Let me know when and if you do decide which one you will be at so I can come find you and say hello :)


Aww thanks Lacemoat yeah i will let you know when i decide when to go, i know Carol is great, she let me see her F1's last time i was at her house which is something iv wanted to see close up(well fairly close lol) for a long time :D

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laurel wrote:
please dont put your cat through the torture of shows etc.
Let her be a happy cat who is enjoying her cat life rather than sit in the cage for hours with lot of people looking at her like an exhibit.

I never understood the purpose of the shows for cats. Who are these people and cats who actually enjoy any of it??
thats my opinion , anyway .


laurel wrote:
no, but I have seen pictures and videos. its looks chaos and cages to me. sorry !
maybe, for breeding purposes you may need some exchange of information which you may obtain from meetings with other breeders and their cats at the show.
but other than that - why would you put your cat through that ?



Showing is a very important part of the breeding of pedigree cats. But not only pedigree cats attend shows, there is always a section for the household cat.
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Lollo you said household cat not Moggie!! :D :lol: :mrgreen: our clash on a previous thread must of rubbed off on you!! Im kidding of course, thank you for your great advice x x

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:21 pm 
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I'm frightened to death to say the word Moggie now :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:04 pm 
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I have to say this has been very informative for me, I have never been to any and really had no idea what it would be like, I sort of had the impression that you go and sit around for the day not doing much, but I have to say it does sound quite good. We have not got our bengals yet (first week of March), and had not really thought we would show them, the breeder did suggest the kids might like to show them at the Royal show here. I agree you could try it out, if she doesn't like it, simple, you don't go again. I think it would be a good experience for those that want to try it. We will likely not, but that's our personal decision based on our lives, but you know I may have to go and see one myself, because now I am very interested to see what they are all about :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:08 pm 
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laurel wrote:
alright then , glad everyone here agrees that cats can be happy in a pen . Not going to debate about it though. I guess I just have a different perception of a happy cat and i will stick to it .


I'll video how happy Pip is in her pen to show you then at her next show.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:09 pm 
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Aww thats great Maybutterfly - the shows are lovely to go as a visitor too - and you can pick up loads of nice goodies for the kitties too.... :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:13 pm 
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Binx_Bengal_Mummy wrote:
Lacemoat wrote:
Oh brill - I'm sure you will love it - and if not just chalk it down to experience lol.

That's great your breeder is going to help you (she is a lovely lady I've chatted with at a few shows now :wink: :D )

- Hopefully our paths will cross at one. Let me know when and if you do decide which one you will be at so I can come find you and say hello :)


Aww thanks Lacemoat yeah i will let you know when i decide when to go, i know Carol is great, she let me see her F1's last time i was at her house which is something iv wanted to see close up(well fairly close lol) for a long time :D

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laurel wrote:
please dont put your cat through the torture of shows etc.
Let her be a happy cat who is enjoying her cat life rather than sit in the cage for hours with lot of people looking at her like an exhibit.

I never understood the purpose of the shows for cats. Who are these people and cats who actually enjoy any of it??
thats my opinion , anyway .


laurel wrote:
no, but I have seen pictures and videos. its looks chaos and cages to me. sorry !
maybe, for breeding purposes you may need some exchange of information which you may obtain from meetings with other breeders and their cats at the show.
but other than that - why would you put your cat through that ?



Showing is a very important part of the breeding of pedigree cats. But not only pedigree cats attend shows, there is always a section for the household cat.
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Lollo you said household cat not Moggie!! :D :lol: :mrgreen: our clash on a previous thread must of rubbed off on you!! Im kidding of course, thank you for your great advice x x


Well, the honest answer is that it is called a 'Household Cat' for the purposes of the show.... so i just used the show term.

There was a GCCF show last weekend near to you, it was the Notts and Derby Cat Club show. We were going but it was cancelled due to the snow :evil: There are not normally too many shows around us. There is another on 23rd Feb around Coventry way. It's the Coventry and Leicester Cat Club show, again a GCCF one. We might be going to that one.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:27 pm 
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Count yourself lucky it was cancelled Lollo - I was booked in at a TICA show on the sunday in Peterborough - we had SO much snow we couldn't go....the show went ahead and I lost my money - I was gutted :(

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:37 pm 
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will they be rescheduling the derby-notts show?? cant believe iv never heard of this lol. And if not im not far from coventry or leicster like 1 hours drive at most..could you possibly post some sort of link id be so grateful then i can show it to hubby (taxi driver) and bat my eyelids. I know my 7 year old would find a show an amazing day out x

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:45 pm 
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Count yourself lucky it was cancelled Lollo - I was booked in at a TICA show on the sunday in Peterborough - we had SO much snow we couldn't go....the show went ahead and I lost my money - I was gutted :(


Not sure if we will get our money back... stupid things is that it was 2 miles from our house and the roads here were clear!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:48 pm 
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GCCF shows:

http://www.gccfcats.org/showsnew.html

TICA shows:

http://www.tica-uk.org.uk/html/shows.html

Not sure about TICA but at GCCF ones the public are allowed in from about 1230pm with a small admission fee (usually about £2-£3).


The Coventry and Leicester show:
http://www.coventryandleicestercatclub.org.uk/

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:59 pm 
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Count yourself lucky it was cancelled Lollo - I was booked in at a TICA show on the sunday in Peterborough - we had SO much snow we couldn't go....the show went ahead and I lost my money - I was gutted :(


Not sure if we will get our money back... stupid things is that it was 2 miles from our house and the roads here were clear!


As far as I know they refund mins the 10% admin charge - so you should be ok.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:04 pm 
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Aww thats great Maybutterfly - the shows are lovely to go as a visitor too - and you can pick up loads of nice goodies for the kitties too.... :D


Oh, now see that would be very dangerous, I have bought many things already and we don't get them for another 6 weeks...but on the plus side we are seeing them again tomorrow :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:09 pm 
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thanks lollo thats brill x

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