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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:04 pm 
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Hi all,

Its my first time posting. I've looked through the forums a bit but thought it might be easier to post about our situation.

Our Bengal, Kiefer, will be 5 this July. She's indoor only, no other pets, and we treat her with Revolution every month.

She was pretty low maintenance until a little over 2 years ago when she started this habit of licking small patches of fur off of her legs until the skin gets raw. Our vet suspected environmental allergies and has us put a cone on her for a few days each time this happens, and then it clears up until the next incident. However, this has continued and happens almost every month. I no longer think it is environmental, I suspect either food allergies or stress, or both. This started a week before we had our first baby, so I don't think it was related to bringing a new family member home, she seemed fine with the new baby and enjoys all the fun baby toys and furniture. We also are home a lot more, so we are with her even more than before the baby.

Her other issue is she periodically has blood in her stool. The first time it happened was 3-4 years ago and the vet didn't find any parasites, etc and recommended we switch to a food with a lower protein content. She's been on Blue Buffalo Grain Free Limited Ingredient Turkey and Potato ever since. Over the past year, she's had several incidents of blood in her stool. The vet couldn't find anything wrong and eventually gave her a shot of antibiotics. Over the last few months, these incidents have increased and rather than paying the vet to not find anything wrong, we wait a couple days and it clears up. I usually know when she's going to have blood in her stool because she poops in the morning (she typically poops at night) and she wanders around the house meowing loudly and clearly uncomfortable.

We think that the cause of both of these issues is stress or food allergies or both. The vet recommended the Feliway plug in, but I am pregnant and not comfortable with the chemicals being in the air. We started using Rescue Remedy, a few drops in her water and occasionally rubbing it on her ear when she's being obnoxious. It was effective at first but seems to be losing effectiveness. She gets stressed easily, especially when we go out of town. When we return, she usually meows outside our door all night.

We also started trying to change her food to see if that was the problem. We were slowly switching her to Wellness Complete Salmon and Herring, but she started refusing to eat the new food when it was 75% new/25% old food and then she has had 2 bloody bowel movements in the last 2 days, including one on our carpet. I've switched her back to the old food for now.

Does anyone have any recommendations for food, treatments, etc? I am losing my mind. She's clearly not happy and frequently wakes us up in the middle of night meowing at our bedroom door, jumping at the door handle, etc. I am having another baby in less than 6 months and we NEED to get this figured out before then. We just want a healthy happy cat!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:46 am 
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Does the cat get fleas and need the revolution treatment? I would assume that could cause some sort of allergy (at least a skin one).

Please do not take offense but I do find it odd you don't want chemicals in the air but put them directly on the cat which probably lives in your house and gets on your bed, children may pet them, ect. I have never used Feliway so I can't comment on it. I have used Revolution on two occasions when a visiting dog brought fleas, I get no one wants fleas! If she doesn't have fleas, you may want to stop the revolution to see if that helps her licking.

I am not sure what tests your vet have done but there are many causes of bloody diarrhea, food allergies is one, but there are also causes like polyps and colitis.

If the food is dry food, I would switch to wet. They should have the same type available as wet.

Sometimes probiotics can help or pumpkin.

Is the stool formed?

I would still be working with the vet to find a solution, there are special diets only they can prescribe and other things they can test for if they can't rule it out through diet. I will say... figuring out bloody stools or diarrhea seems to be very difficult and may take many vet visits and time.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:34 pm 
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Welcome to the forum. You have a lot going on with your kitty. There is a lot of info online regarding overgrooming. The causes are usually stress or allergies! Plain and simple. Adding a new member to the family can add that stress -- and even cats seem to understand impending birth. However, it could also be caused by skin irritation of some sort. I'm sure your vet inspected that area carefully. I don't especially like applying flea medication to my cats, but they get fleas and ticks if I do not and that is very uncomfortable for them. I have never had an issue with the stuff I apply to them which was Frontline until it stopped working and now I use Bravecto.

As for the blood in the stool -- it should not be that difficult to figure what is going on. You may need to have an ultrasound done to check the abdomen. Your vet has ruled out parasites. Did he test for Tritrichomonas foetus? Usually the cat has diarrhea as well. The blood is coming from somewhere. And one has to be careful the cat does not become anemic.

I know how frustrating it is to have these issues and no answers. Your poor kitty is not having a great time with these issues either. All you can do is keep working on solving them.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:55 pm 
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I think you might want to explore the environmental allergy angle more. Temporary relief after wearing a cone might mean she was exposed to different areas of the home when she gets home, and exposed to less allergens. Could be plastics, synthetic fibers or laundry detergent, etc. Where does she sit or spend a lot of time sleeping?

The pheromone in FELIWAY is also available in Sargeant's Calming collars. it smells a bit like lavender. There are also some calming sprays, with and without pheromones. Pheromone products generally include "happy message" or "harmony message" pheromones.

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When comfortable and happy, cats mark their territory as familiar by rubbing their face against corners, furniture, people, or other cats at home. They leave an odorless message known as a feline facial pheromone. When present in the environment, these "happy messages" provide comfort and security to cats.

Mother cats communicate with her kittens through natural messages released into the air. These "harmony messages" are called cat appeasing pheromones. They help maintain social bonds between cats of all ages.

Cats communicate with other cats through natural messages left in their territory. When they scratch an object in their territory they leave "territory messages". This provides a visual message (scratch marks) and the "territory message" says that "this is mine".


The bloody stool and the meowing before defecating sounds like it could be constipation. Pumpkin as a source of fiber has been suggested. There are other fiber additives available. And it may be simply a matter of getting you cat to drink more water. Place several bowls of water around the house. Cats drink more when the water bowl is not next to their food bowl. A pet water fountain can entice your cat to drink more as well.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:12 pm 
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tamberav wrote:
Does the cat get fleas and need the revolution treatment? I would assume that could cause some sort of allergy (at least a skin one).

Please do not take offense but I do find it odd you don't want chemicals in the air but put them directly on the cat which probably lives in your house and gets on your bed, children may pet them, ect. I have never used Feliway so I can't comment on it. I have used Revolution on two occasions when a visiting dog brought fleas, I get no one wants fleas! If she doesn't have fleas, you may want to stop the revolution to see if that helps her licking.



I was going to suggest the same thing. One of my cats had a problem where she was pulling out/licking off hair, and it did turn out to be the flea treatment that was causing it. So that is definitely a very easy thing to try, although don't expect immediate results, since that stuff apparently "lasts" for quite a long time.

As for the food allergy angle... I dunno. If she eats the same stuff, day after day, having blood in her stool a few times a year wouldn't make me suspect a food allergy. One thing that you might try though, would be giving her a raw diet for awhile. If you are in the states there are quite a few good, commercial, raw diets which are nutritionally complete. "Rad Cat" is one that my bengals like. Just avoid Turkey, since that is the protein your cat is currently eating. And yea, I also agree that if you can't/won't try raw, at least try canned if you are not already. Weruva has a chicken and pumpkin flavor that you might try. I would avoid fish for the time being though. Fish is usually harder to digest for cats, and more likely to cause allergies.

As far as stress goes... you might try upping the play if your cat is amenable to that. That's always a good de-stressor. The fact that this coincided with a time when the baby's arrival was imminent seems more than a coincidence.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:18 pm 
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ColoVega wrote:
The bloody stool and the meowing before defecating sounds like it could be constipation. Pumpkin as a source of fiber has been suggested. There are other fiber additives available. And it may be simply a matter of getting you cat to drink more water. Place several bowls of water around the house. Cats drink more when the water bowl is not next to their food bowl. A pet water fountain can entice your cat to drink more as well.


Yea, the same thing crossed my mind (about drinking more water). If you feed canned or raw, it will be less of an issue (but still very good to use multiple, fresh water bowls and/or a drinking fountain).

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:28 pm 
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There are cat foods out there with pumpkin added. Unfortunately neither of my cats will eat them.


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