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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:16 pm 
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swirlypepper wrote:
Hey guys,

Since I've got a pet bengal I was really prioritising flash coats and pretty faces when I chose mine :) But this forum's been very cool and you're good teachers, so what do you mean by a better head? All the gogee studs are on this page http://gogees.com/studs.html so I was wondering if someone would be kind enough to point out what would be considered a good head, or show me another example entirely from all the photos on this list.


Breeders over the years, have selected their cats on the basis of personal choice and also what the cat's they have are capable of producing.

Some, like Gogees, have, like yourself gone for flashy coats, they therefore have selected from their own stock cats that meet that criteria, and bought/bartered cats from breeders who had a similar vision.

Many would say at the detriment of "type" and the head.
Gogees cats, some would say, "tend" not to look "wild" or resemble an Asian Leopard cat in appearance, their profiles tend to be a bit domestic for some tastes, but they do have fantastic rosetting. Some Bengal cats do have a tendency to fade/darken and the colours are a lot less vivid, so that I think is what SOS is meaning by:-
SOS wrote:
but not so sure that he will look this great in a years time


See http://ticaeo.com/content/publications/pages/bg.pdf for a description of the Bengal standard as regards the head. This
straight/concave profile without a nose break is what a lot of "head" producers have opted for along with whisker pads, small ears and a more ALC look to the face. They therefore select cats on the strength of their heads and some would also say to the detriment of coat quality....You cannot win.

Others are concentrating on body shape, ears, tails, silvers, snows, marbles etc etc the list is endless. The truth is, usually as you concentrate and try to correct one or two things, then other things fall off the end, as your selection process excludes them.

The bottom line is that it is so difficult to get a cat that is a good all rounder. As the breed is fairly new then many breeders have different visions of what a Bengal should actually look like, hence the diversity of looks in the "top" cats/kittens above. It is what makes the Bengal an exciting breed to be in.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:26 pm 
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Wow amazing pics, thank you for posting them. But I dont know how I am meant to pick my next bengal after seeing so many beuties. :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:22 am 
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I would rather point out ther firste lines in the general description och the breed:
The goal of the Bengal breeding program is to create a domestic cat which has physical features distinctive to the small forest-dwelling wildcats, and with the loving, dependable temperament of the domestic cat. Keeping this goal in mind, judges shall give special merit to those characteristics in the appearance of the Bengal which are distinct from those found in other domestic cat breeds.

Those lines tell you more about what kind of look that we try to create. What I mean is that you can have all features that are described in the standrad in one cat but in the wrong proportions and that will give a totaly wrong look of that cat. To me porportion is tha main thing in achiveing a the wild look and it i sall about selection. If you move back 10 genereations or so the Bengal breed is all about around 200 cats. The difference we see today is the results of different selections of the same genes. I'm convinced that we can keep the best of the coats and paint them on to the best of the types that we have today and even improve both parts in 10-15 years. Unfortunally today there sometimes seem to be two camps, coat breeders or type breeders. The first who often seen as huge cage catteries the produces a lot of kittens and don't consider a typie cat with great type to be used. The opposite the type breeders who want cross out to anything less good in type what they have. We all need to mix these two extremes into one cat and it will to be done by one breeding it will take years of outcrosses to get to the right kind of Bengal BUT there has to be better selection in what animals that are used in the future. If the offspring isn't got it pet it out don't sell as a breeder because someone ask you for it and pay more then a pet. Just Because the kitten is better then what the buy has got today doesn't mean that it is good enough to be used as a breeder.


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