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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:55 pm 
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Very pretty litter of "mutt" kittens as you seem to prefer the term.

Not really sure why you have posted here regarding colour unless you are thinking of selling them as "Bengal cross" to make more money. Simba has no papers and I shouldn't think your manx has either so if you are actually going to be honest with people there should be no mention of Bengal with regard to the kittens.

Feel free to continue to "do your own thing" and "not be like other people" but please don't rip people off by misdescribing the kittens.

Any plans on getting them neutered soon or are they the basis of your breeding program?

Sorry if you are offended by these comments but you come across as just another backyard breeder with no concern for the welfare of your cats.


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And you can kiss my ass! I'm far from a freaking backyard breeder! I despise backyard breeders, Puppy mills, kitten mills, and bird mills. You don't know squat! and learn what spell check is! it's annoying when someone who thinks they are better than I am can't even spell properly, when they attempt to downgrade me! I never once said I was going to Miss-describe them I have said I will let the new owners know the dad is Bengal(even if its just part) and the mom is a Manx, Plus it would be obvious when they come to my house and see the parents sitting here

backyard breeders do not get their animals vaccinated for EVERY vaccine listed for cats. I guarantee YOU don't even get your indoor cats all the vaccines mine have gotten and they are indoor but they do go outside in their cat kennels, and on their harness and cat runs because it is unhealthy to leave animals cooped up in a house all day, they need the vitamins from the Sunlight that are not going to get through a window inside a house, because the window blocks those out!! And Backyard breeders don't take the animals to a vet period! Mine go when ever they need to plus yearly for check ups and to get boosters of all their vaccines when it's time.

So before you judge someone, check yourself first!

Oh and one last thing to mull over, Would a backyard breeder spend over 2 thousand dollars to keep an AKC Registered Beagle alive, when she got out of her dog kennel and accidentally got hit?? Since you seem to have no intelligence at all, I'll answer that for you, NO THEY WOULD NOT and I DID EXACTLY THAT

I will NEVER come back to this forum, I have no time for ignorance, and downgrading and accusing me of crap that you have no clue about. I have better things to do. Perhaps you should go find a hobby and learn to not downgrade people and ASSume stuff when you don't know anything!


Just as a wild assumption on my part, you must be american.

I have no need to use a spellchecker thank you, as it seems to me that americans can't spell things correctly and think that their way is right when in fact it isn't.

For your information, as you seem to know everything about me and my cat....NOT.

Benji is a rescue cat, from what you americans call a shelter, and had a pretty miserable life before I found him. He has full papers, not that that makes any difference to me, but it shows me he is a Bengal. He is now a happy, healthy cat who can come and go as he pleases during the day, but is shut in at night for his safety. He is vaccinated with all necessary (but not unnecessary) jabs and is taken to the vets if I think he needs to go irrespective of cost, it is what responsible pet owners do for the animals that they love.

Like it or not you are a backyard breeder however much you may try and convince yourself you are not.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:11 am 
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And you can kiss my ass! I'm far from a freaking backyard breeder! I despise backyard breeders, Puppy mills, kitten mills, and bird mills. You don't know squat! and learn what spell check is! it's annoying when someone who thinks they are better than I am can't even spell properly, when they attempt to downgrade me! I never once said I was going to Miss-describe them I have said I will let the new owners know the dad is Bengal(even if its just part) and the mom is a Manx, Plus it would be obvious when they come to my house and see the parents sitting here

backyard breeders do not get their animals vaccinated for EVERY vaccine listed for cats. I guarantee YOU don't even get your indoor cats all the vaccines mine have gotten and they are indoor but they do go outside in their cat kennels, and on their harness and cat runs because it is unhealthy to leave animals cooped up in a house all day, they need the vitamins from the Sunlight that are not going to get through a window inside a house, because the window blocks those out!! And Backyard breeders don't take the animals to a vet period! Mine go when ever they need to plus yearly for check ups and to get boosters of all their vaccines when it's time.

So before you judge someone, check yourself first!

Oh and one last thing to mull over, Would a backyard breeder spend over 2 thousand dollars to keep an AKC Registered Beagle alive, when she got out of her dog kennel and accidentally got hit?? Since you seem to have no intelligence at all, I'll answer that for you, NO THEY WOULD NOT and I DID EXACTLY THAT

I will NEVER come back to this forum, I have no time for ignorance, and downgrading and accusing me of crap that you have no clue about. I have better things to do. Perhaps you should go find a hobby and learn to not downgrade people and ASSume stuff when you don't know anything!

What I can't seem to understand is why you would choose to breed two random "mutt" (your term) cats on purpose? Have you ever been to an animal shelter/rescue center? Have you got any idea just how many cats (KITTENS, just like yours, included) are killed every single day because there are simply too many as it is? I work at an animal shelter. I can't tell you how many cats and kittens we have to turn away on a regular basis - most end up going to the county "kill shelter" where the majority do not make it out alive... Reputable breeders have a purpose in their breeding program. They love the breed they represent and they strive to produce healthy, quality kittens that adhere to the breed standard. What you've done is simply breed more of the exact same type of mixed breed kittens that already fill up our shelters every day... And for what? If you were so desperate to raise kittens there are many shelters that would have been MORE than happy to have you foster for them. Even if you do find good homes for the kittens you've produced, that means each of those homes is no longer available to a shelter kitten desperately in need of one... Do you not feel bad for that at all?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:14 am 
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Wow good point echo! Even I have never thought of it that way! How depressing!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:17 am 
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Just as a wild assumption on my part, you must be american.

I have no need to use a spellchecker thank you, as it seems to me that americans can't spell things correctly and think that their way is right when in fact it isn't.

For your information, as you seem to know everything about me and my cat....NOT.

Benji is a rescue cat, from what you americans call a shelter, and had a pretty miserable life before I found him. He has full papers, not that that makes any difference to me, but it shows me he is a Bengal. He is now a happy, healthy cat who can come and go as he pleases during the day, but is shut in at night for his safety. He is vaccinated with all necessary (but not unnecessary) jabs and is taken to the vets if I think he needs to go irrespective of cost, it is what responsible pet owners do for the animals that they love.

Like it or not you are a backyard breeder however much you may try and convince yourself you are not.

Heather

:eek: :question: Woah..... I was fully agreeing with you up until this point. Why all the "American" hate? I live in this country too but I obviously share none of the same views as OP... Please don't bunch us all into one group. Many of us from the US are good people who truly love and care for our cats, and do strive to do everything in their best interest...

There's nothing "wrong" with how either side spells or words things. It's just different. :neutral:

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:23 am 
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Sorry Echo, this was not meant in any way as "American hate" but was a response to the ranting post which made lots of assumptions about me.

I have absolutely no problem with the majority of (good) people in America, only with the ignorant (bad) ones.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:33 pm 
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Tigertail wrote:
Sorry Echo, this was not meant in any way as "American hate" but was a response to the ranting post which made lots of assumptions about me.

I have absolutely no problem with the majority of (good) people in America, only with the ignorant (bad) ones.


Heather

I understand. But I would think what country someone resides in shouldn't even be a factor... It's how that person conducts themselves. Spelling things inaccurately or sounding like an ass is not an "American" thing, just an "ass" thing. People from every country can be asses and morons. I'm always so disheartened when people speak of Americans as if we're all hillbilly retards... Yes, some of them are and it's quite embarrassing, but those people certainly don't represent the whole country.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:44 pm 
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I think some people are quite protective over the English language... several words have evolved in teh American language to be spelt and pronounced differently... guess this annoys some people, kind of amuses me that there can be such a difference.

I do think that people tend to forget that this is an internationally used forum and that spelling and attitudes differ greatly depending on where you are in the world. I know some US based people always assume that their input is relevant like food related questions before asking the whereabouts of the OP.... Same applied here, in some ways, when the OP assumed that her way of spelling was the correct way... as far as i know, US spelling is hyphenated.... I just know it isn't in the Oxford English Dictionary.

I think the OP just got Tigertails back up and her words were not meant to offend you....

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:50 pm 
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I live in america and wouldnt take a animal off her if she paid me so not sure what being america has to do with it lol


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:25 pm 
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I live in america and wouldnt take a animal off her if she paid me so not sure what being america has to do with it lol


It hasn't really. The op was very offensive to a forum member on the basis of her post which contained spelling that is correct in the UK. Tigertail retaliated as she was upset but, I know, she didn't mean to offend. It was just an assumption made by the OP that her way was right regarding spelling and attitude.

Unfortunately there are people all over the world that would take a kitten off the likes of her :sad: not many people do lots of research and there are lots of people that want a Bengal or part Bengal because of the perceived value and status but do not want to spend the £/$ it would cost for a responsibly bred one.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:36 pm 
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Wow, I can feel the tension across the wifi (probably a American term). Every country that speaks the "same" language have differences in both grammar, spelling and word usage. One who knows the language can determine if someone is Spanish or Mexican just by the this.There are dramatic differences in usage between America and most former British colonies, but there are differences also between all English speaking countries that can be telling as to where they are from.

As far as out crosses and breed names go this is how it was explained to me.

If you have an unregistered, unpedigreed cat you have a domestic short hair or a domestic long hair, it does not matter weather or not the parents are pedigreed or not. I believe that there are no permissible out crosses with Bengal cats. However I use this as an example only, if Simba was a registered Bengal and your Manx is also registered then the kittens could be registered as a non allowed cross Their registration classification would change from stud book to ancestral. Their designation would have a N in the third position for 3 generations the fourth generation would be considered a pure cat but not a stud book cat. If you paid for the complete registration procedure I am not even sure your kittens could be considered Bengal until they are at least third generation from the original out cross. In some ways it would be easier to create a experimental breed than to breed a non allowed out cross into a established breed.

I will restate that if your cats are not registered then you have DSH kittens.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:06 pm 
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I am so sad to see how this post ended up! I am very anti "isms".

I do not like the OP's attitude. Breeding parrots horrifies me in particular, I was going to get a baby parrot, but after thorough research I changed my mind. This is because they can live up to 75 years, and get very attatched to one person. They are very intelligent- Like a three year old, and if you wouldn't consider leaving a three year old at home alone and going to work every day, then you shouldn't keep a parrot either. Even the best looked after parrots develop emotional problems as they are extremely intelligent and social birds, and they deserve better than sitting in a house with no company all day. If you are planning on having children, parrots can get jealous and attack them with their nutcracker beaks- I read a story about one who bit off a 9 month old babies finger. They are also ear piercingly loud, many people think they will be able to deal with this, but they can't. When a parrot matures, they have a complete personality transplant, which results in them being rehomed. I believe that people should need a licence to keep them. I absolutely definitely do not think that anyone should breed them. They should be rescued.

Most people are on this part of the forum because they are either a breeder or considering breeding, knowing that there is an over-population of cats. Neutering your cat's offspring would prevent 7 kittens turning into 49 kittens, who turn into 343 kittens... But the fact remains that if no-one bred cats AT ALL, people would be forced to take the ones from the rescue centre as there would be no other alternatives. It doesn't matter if the cats are bengals, manxes, moggies or anything else when it comes down to it. Not really.

I do think the OP was well meaning in her own way. She does seem to care about her cats.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:15 pm 
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Someone has to say something!

There is no difference between someone who breeds a crossbreed/Moggie than someone who breeds pedigrees! No difference at all. You live in a fantasy world if you think there is.

How many Bengal breeders don't check for HCM etc? countless! So sort out your own house out before judging this person!!! Until all REGISTERED Bengal breeders practice the ethics of doing the correct testing, no one has any right to judge those who aren't registered breeders.

I despise hypocrites and that is all am seeing on this post!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:44 pm 
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I am surprised people go back this far in the topic to locate these gems. I'd forgotten about this topic.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:19 am 
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I am surprised people go back this far in the topic to locate these gems. I'd forgotten about this topic.


I guess some people haven't got much else to do :mrgreen:


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