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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:07 pm 
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Hi all,

I have been reading and reading up on different peoples' suggestions and foods they feed their Bengals. I am bringing my girl and boy home in a few weeks and will (after a few weeks of them being home) start transitioning them over to a brand I prefer. They are currently on Blue Wilderness, which is not terrible!

However, after my research; I am thinking a combination of Earthborn Holistic: Wild Sea Catch dry, along with Tiki Cat and Earthborn wet foods, depending on the flavors they like, would be ever better!

Does anyone have experience with these brands / have any comparable suggestions? I shop Chewy.com and local organic/grain free only pet shop.

I would ideally like to feed the two of them Orijen based off the ingredients, but I can afford Earthborn & Tiki Cat for now. :rolleyes: Questions and comments please?? Again I am in Midwest United States.


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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 5:18 am 
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Raava&Vaatu wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone have experience with these brands / have any comparable suggestions? I shop Chewy.com and local organic/grain free only pet shop.

I would ideally like to feed the two of them Orijen based off the ingredients, but I can afford Earthborn & Tiki Cat for now. :rolleyes: Questions and comments please?? Again I am in Midwest United States.


Yes, I'm familiar with, and have experience with all those brands. Before I comment, let me preface this by saying that arguably the most important thing is that you are able to feed your cats something that they will eat with gusto, without going on and off it with hunger strikes in between. And along those lines, since you will have 2 cats, chances are pretty good that they will have individual preferences. And the other thing to keep in mind is that in general, your cats will get pickier over time. So if they are "meh" about it today, they'll probably completely reject it a year later. So you start with lots of research and concepts and theories, and what you end up with is inevitably some sort of compromise :rolleyes:

Orijen: As far as I know they only have dry food. They have a very impressive list of ingredients, and impressively high amount of protein, plus they are just generally pretty well thought of. Lots of members here have fed Orijen. The big downside to them is that they mix together lots of different proteins. For example their base "Cat/kitten" one, I count 5 different proteins in there :eek: The problem with that, is that for many cats, they will have one of more foods that they just won't be able to stomach very well. So if you have a cat like that, Orijen is probably about the worst food you could get.

Earthborn Holistic: I believe they are a relative newcomer. I have heard very very few other members here that have tried or fed their cats this brand. They have both dry and canned. Their dry food, on paper, isn't that great based on the ingredients. Their dry food is basically "meat meals" and then filler. Meat meals are basically rendered meat, which is lower quality meat. I've tried my cat on their dry food and they all rejected it (just as well). Their canned food is a different story. Much higher quality meat, and lots of it. When you open up a can, two things strike me: 1. It looks like human-quality meat. 2. The meat practically explodes out of the can (it's packed in so tight, and has practically no water). My cats like many of their canned flavors.

Tiki Cat: An interesting, kind of oddball brand. They only do canned, and they specialize in fish (although they do have a few non-seafood flavors too). Really high quality stuff. You open up their cans and you see hunks of human-quality fish and shredded chicken. I haven't met many other bengal owners who feed tiki cat (maybe a handful). It may be just as well because fish is not considered a great thing to feed as a staple for cats. Unfortunately I have one fish-junky cat whom to satisfy I actually feed quite a bit or tiki cat. All three of mine really like Tiki Cat.

Blue Wilderness: They are more sold in "big box" pet stores, as opposed to the specialty stores which sell the other brands above. They have both canned and dry. On paper, their ingredients are really good. But after launching an ad campaign a few years back, comparing their impressive dry ingredients listed on their bags, to some of their lesser competitors, they got caught lying about it, and it turned out they were using meat by-products and such. They turned out to be a total sham. They blamed it on a supplier, and claim to have "fixed it". They're also currently going through a recall. That said, I feed mine blue wilderness dry, just because as picky cats who have eaten it for years, they struggle with anything else :rolleyes: Their wet food is unimpressive. Open up a can of it and you see gruel. On paper it's ok, my cats all hate it. Lots and lots of people on this forum have fed their cats blue buffalo over the years.

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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 4:59 pm 
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Brian, you are such an authority on cat food. You bring so much to the table in this section of the forum (as well as the others).


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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 10:11 pm 
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Brian, thanks much for the thorough response! :biggrin: I recently read on here about Blue Wilderness so I am going to stray away from it for sure. Lost trust in consumers is hard to get back!! Do you switch flavors day by day? Would you say switching between flavors they like of both, Tiki Cat and Earthborn would be alright? Don't want to upset their tummies.

I am curious though for anyone's opinion: Do more bengals show iffy eating behavior with different foods? All of the other cats I have owned loved any food I gave! Being new to bengals though, I'm willing to keep trying different brands, if they end up being picky. Does anyone have a suggested feeding schedule with wet? (I understand each brand gives one as well) The breeder only feeds her adults one can at night, but 2 cans a day for kittens. At what point would I switch to one?

Thanks for the hep!! :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:28 pm 
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The key is to transition the kittens slowly to a new food. And I do believe kittens do better on wet food than dry food as they require the water from the wet food. Kittens should also enjoy several meals a day. How many times do you feed a newborn baby? Every four hours! While that's not the case with a kitten, I think 4 to 5 meals a day would be fine. The tummy doesn't hold much. Cats usually walk away when they are full, so hand out the wet food in tablespoons and see how well they do with it.

Cats are finicky. I have two and what one will eat, the other one refuses and vice versa. That's just the way they are. But, finding a wet food that they will devour is important since they HAVE to eat.


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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:12 am 
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Sherry wrote:
Brian, you are such an authority on cat food. You bring so much to the table in this section of the forum (as well as the others).

Thanks Sherry :redface: So are you (in terms of bringing a lot to the table).

As far as the question of feedings... Like Sherry said, kitten have to eat a bunch of meals a day (I believe the recommended # is 6, at least initially), and as a general rule, the canned food is going to be better for them than the dry (more moisture, better meat content, less filler), so my recommendation is to see how many of the feedings you can realistically do with the canned food based on your schedule, and then fill in the gaps with dry.

You really don't need to worry about over-feeding for at least the first 6-12 months or so. After that you'll have to be more careful, and get to know whether either of your cats is a glutton. Make sure you leave out plenty of water. A ceramic water fountain is a really good way to do that if you have the means.

I think making one of the feedings right before you go to bed will benefit you (may help them wind down a bit while you try to sleep), and then of course first thing in the morning most cats appreciate a meal when you get up.

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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:47 am 
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Thanks!!! Alright If I understand correctly, I'm thinking of feeding them the correct portion of dry in an automatic feeder in the morning as well as a 3oz can of tiki cat, with a 5.5 oz can of Earthborn Holistic at night. Depending of course what they like, but the oz would stay the same. Sound like a good plan for at least 6-9 months... then just give one bigger can each at night?


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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 6:00 am 
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Raava&Vaatu wrote:
Thanks!!! Alright If I understand correctly, I'm thinking of feeding them the correct portion of dry in an automatic feeder in the morning as well as a 3oz can of tiki cat, with a 5.5 oz can of Earthborn Holistic at night. Depending of course what they like, but the oz would stay the same. Sound like a good plan for at least 6-9 months... then just give one bigger can each at night?


You don't want to ration things out for the first 6+ months. No automatic feeder, let them eat how much they want when they are hungry. A bowl of dry food will be good for a day, so just leave it out, then change it out the next day if they don't eat it all. For the canned food, you'll just have to see how much they will eat in one go (you don't want it sitting out for more than an hour), then adjust.

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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 5:11 pm 
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You can try to give your little kitten a 5.5 oz can of wet food before bed, but I highly doubt it will eat it all if you've been giving him feedings throughout the day. You don't want a hungry little kitten. If you want your baby to grow normally, feed it several times. If you work, the largest meal will be first thing in the morning. It's never good to leave wet food out for very long as it simply dries out. Putting out dry food to fill in is a requirement. However, if you are home with the kitty, then divvy out several small feedings throughout the day. My 10-year old bengal is a grazer and eats 10 times a day. I give him 1/2 of a 3 oz can. When that is gone, he'll get the rest. But, usually that's all he wants and comes back later. Others feed their adult cats two to three meals a day and that's it! Every cat is different in its requirements and what schedule you get the kitty used to. But kittens are a different story. They need multiple meals throughout the day.


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