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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:19 pm 
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What are these papers people are talking about, I've had 3 bengals now, all from the same breeder and all I've ever had is a contract to say they are sold as pets and I agree to neuter them and their pedigree papers.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:01 am 
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Clare&magic wrote:
What are these papers people are talking about, I've had 3 bengals now, all from the same breeder and all I've ever had is a contract to say they are sold as pets and I agree to neuter them and their pedigree papers.



Depends on what's stated in your contract really, when you buy kittens you often get given a several generation pedigree print out, that's not actually their official paperwork, the paperwork is the slip from TICA/GCCF or whichever official governing body the litter is officially registered with. Contracts usually state when they are neutured you can request their TICA/GCCF slip if you want it or if you weren't given it at point of sale, it basically means you can officially have them transferred into your name and then request an official pedigree from TICA/GCCF which can have more generations on it, it also includes your kittens SBT number. All cats from a registered litter have one neutered or not, it's just to keep track of all bengals born really and if you like having some paperwork, cats that are neutered can still be shown as alters if you want to show them or just have the papers for future.

The reason why a lot of breeders don't give you the slip when you pick up your kitten is because it means the kitten is technically still officially in their name until they sign them over to you once you have neutured them, it makes it easier for them to claim compensation if you break your contract and breed the cat or if you haven't looked after them or sold them on etc they have more legal standing to get the cat back.

I personally like to have the official papers if I've paid for a registered animal. It's often similar with dogs and the KC paperwork from certain top breeders if they have been sold to you without breeding rights. That's how I understand it all works anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:08 am 
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On the pedigree papers I have it states that I am the owner, the pedigree goes s back to around the great great grand parent.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:38 pm 
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Raiden's previous owner had never registered him. When I asked the previous owner if he knew what F generation Raiden was, he ran inside his house and came back with the blue TICA registration paper. He said it might be on there. I took it home and realized it was blank except for the information the breeder had filled in. I contacted TICA and asked if I could still register a 6-year old bengal and the said "of course." So, I filled out the papers and sent them in and requested a 5-generation pedigree (additional cost). That's when I became fascinated with the generations and completed a pedigree on Raiden going back to ALL the ALCs. It took me three months and I have since discovered in doing my database, there is an mistake that I need to go back and fix at some point, however it does not change the generation -- Raiden is an F9. Some people want to know the ALC that is he shortest link to their kitty! I just gave Sarah hers, and (thankfully), they aren't Centerwall's.

Almost all breeders will withhold papers until the kitty has been fixed, which is why a lot of breeders take care of fixing the kitties before they ever leave. So much easier on the new owner and doesn't interfere with getting the registration papers. They simply mean you have a purebred bengal.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:17 pm 
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Arya's brother is still available if anyone wants an adorable little (silver) snow boy? He's got the same face as Arya has as well. I would have taken him as well if I could have coped with 3 but I don't think Griff would be too happy. Arya would probably just think yay two boys I can bully lol.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:34 pm 
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Such a beautiful snow baby. I can't believe someone hasn't snapped him up.


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