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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:57 pm 
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Hi, i needs some advice. I have a 2 yr old Bengal called Rocky . The problem is he is a champion hunter , regardless to the fact he wears two bells and sounds like Noddy as he runs through the gardens he still manages to get wood pigeons and various other birds and some are still partially alive. His newest victim was a squirrel i found on the landing which wasnt much smaller than a the cat. My husband and kids are sick of it and i dont know what to do . I can close the cat flap off but i dont really want to have him locked up all day . Please any advice will be much appreciated,
Thanks Amanda


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 Post subject: Re: Hunting
PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 3:19 pm 
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Asian Leopard Cat

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You have a champion! I'd be proud of him, not frustrated with him. But I understand your concerns, my feedback is as follows:

1) no cat should be outdoors unsupervised. Cats should be either leashed with their human or roaming in an outdoor caged facility. You wouldn't have this problem if you do this part.
2) to satisfy his hunting instinct, get him plenty of toys that he can chase jumping or running after.
3) if you or any of your family members go on hunting trips, take him along to unleash his advantages.

Again, you have a champion... many would love to have a Bengal like yours.


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 Post subject: Re: Hunting
PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 4:43 pm 
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I agree with Hassaan's #1 and #2. A large, outdoor enclosure would be perfect, however ..... we have one on our deck and Raiden still catches birds that go in there, has brought in two baby squirrels through the cat door. Mind you, this part of the deck is elevated a couple of feet off the ground and has a secure floor, but the critters come in through the small wire openings. I've found dead mice and birds in there (if he doesn't bring them inside to us). So ... that may not solve everything unless the openings are quite small. Unfortunately, it is the cat's nature to hunt prey. We have 7 bird feeders out that Raiden can watch from his enclosure. We also have an outdoor cat that will occasionally catch a bird, but he prefers mice and chipmunks. Your only other alternative is to try and prevent these critters from coming into your yard. However, wildlife has to co-exist with humans and other wildlife. It may be a losing battle.

Personally, I would never take a bengal hunting. There is too much going on between the humans and their targets to try and deal with a cat who also wants to hunt. Leave the kitty home, please.


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 Post subject: Re: Hunting
PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 5:22 pm 
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Sherry, on a second thought you have a very valid point about hunting. Although it'd be great if one gets busy setting up the camp and cooking while unleashing the Bengals to catch rabbits and ducks ;)

But yeah, it'd be better taking the cat fishing by a lake instead.


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 Post subject: Re: Hunting
PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 5:52 pm 
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To me, complaining that you have a cat that hunts is like complaining that you have a fish that swims. It's their nature, no, it's their very essence. And getting a bengal means you are getting a cat that has a particularly high prey drive. Of all the reasons to lock up a cat, that is probably the nuttiest one that I have heard. In fact the fact that he enjoys hunting so much is probably the most compelling argument to give him outdoor time (and this from a guy who doesn't believe cats should be outside, unsupervised or without some sort of confinement system to keep them safe while they are out there).

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 Post subject: Re: Hunting
PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 7:21 pm 
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brianj12 wrote:
To me, complaining that you have a cat that hunts is like complaining that you have a fish that swims. It's their nature, no, it's their very essence. And getting a bengal means you are getting a cat that has a particularly high prey drive. Of all the reasons to lock up a cat, that is probably the nuttiest one that I have heard. In fact the fact that he enjoys hunting so much is probably the most compelling argument to give him outdoor time (and this from a guy who doesn't believe cats should be outside, unsupervised or without some sort of confinement system to keep them safe while they are out there).


I think, Brian, her concern is the innocent birds and animals being killed for nothing... these are innocent souls too. I admire her cause to protect the wild life. That's why she wanted to see how she can balance between having her cat have fun and not causing harm to the birds and squirrels outside.


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 Post subject: Re: Hunting
PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 8:12 pm 
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HassaanAbdeen wrote:
I think, Brian, her concern is the innocent birds and animals being killed for nothing... these are innocent souls too. I admire her cause to protect the wild life. That's why she wanted to see how she can balance between having her cat have fun and not causing harm to the birds and squirrels outside.


I get no joy from seeing birds die, I have 4-5 feeders going year round, bird charts on my wall, I've gone to bird sanctuaries for photography etc., but it's the way of things. It's actually pretty darn tough for a cat to catch a bird (they too are highly adapted to survive such predators) and pretty much impossible for a cat to catch a squirrel. If a cat had to make a living killing squirrels they would die of starvation in no time. Squirrels are too well adapted, and cats are big, slow, and clumsy by comparison. But there is a thing called natural selection at work. Predators will pick off the weak, hurt, ill, and in so doing strengthen the flock/herd etc. By putting two bells on his collar, you are already severely tipping the scales further in favor of the hunted (good for you), but at some point you have to recognize that you now have a family member who is a hard-core predator, and accept him for what he is.

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 Post subject: Re: Hunting
PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 5:13 pm 
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There are members on here who take their bengal camping with them! I just know I could not enjoy any type of "vacation" if I had my bengal with me. He is an attention monger and a pain in the butt most of the time. But I love him.

Yes, usually, the cats go after the weaker prey. But Long Legs (my outdoor cat) brings back mice almost daily. We back up acres of woods so there are a LOT of critters back there, including coyotes that we hear howling. We have a slew of squirrels and both Raiden and Legs will run after them, although Raiden is on a leash and can't get to them. I hate to even see the little mice lose their lives, although having Raiden bring a live one into the house from his enclosure is not the most fun. I've literally jumped up on the bed while my husband attempts to commandeer the mouse and trying to keep Raiden away from it. We've also had a cardinal in our bedroom flying around -- another thing Raiden brought into the house. Opened the window and screen and let it out. I have rescued several baby squirrels as well. It is an almost daily battle for me -- and I know I'm just not going to win in the end.


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