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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:58 pm 
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I've posted on here previously for advice on introducing a kitten to 12month old bengal and the advice was pretty much unanimous - it could be done usually pretty easily.

Now I have a further question - What about introducing an 18month old male bengal to a 12 month male bengal? Both neutered. The reason I'm most concerned is because I've read posts on here regarding territorial issues and cats males vying for 'top cat' position. I've tried googling for advice, but Bengals are unique in that they have such strong personalities. I don't want to take this commitment lightly, it would be unfair upon both the cats and the last thing I'd want is for there to be issues that I should/could have foreseen and by neglecting to do so, cause unnecessary upset to the cats.

Zebedee is very laid back, a big softie, and spoilt to bits by my OH and I. We have no children so he is our baby. I have never ever had a single issue with his behaviour, he's never shown aggression, peed where he shouldn't have or generally caused any reason for concern. He truly is a little angel. I know he would love a playmate so we reserved an Abyssinian kitten who would have been available in a few weeks but the breeder has just suggested she may want to keep the kitten for herself, in which case, since I'd already prepared my home for the addition, I thought an older bengal may be a good option?

Has anyone any advice in this area, i know many of you are breeders and so will have plenty of experience and good advice. Please please let me know what you think. I love the idea of another bengal boy to spoil and love and spent all night dreaming of two boys running mad around the house but before doing anything I just want to make sure i'm being responsible.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:46 pm 
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hi there, i think it's a lovely idea to get him a friend. as he's so laid back hopefully he will accept the newcomer. i think in these circumstances it is down to the individual personalities of the cats, but it's so difficult to say as he's always been an only boy & never had to share his love from his humans.

would it be possible to home the other cat on a trial period at first to see how it goes?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:32 pm 
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bundles of bengals suggestion of homing the other cat on a trial basis is your best option of possible. There is no way to predict how they will interact regardless of personalities.

That said of they are both fixed I would expect them to get along just fine ... maybe immediately ...maybe later ... maybe much later but sooner or later. Not very helpful eh? :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:34 pm 
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Hi

I suppose you have to consider them as introducing one adult male to another.

My neutered ex-stud cat, loves everyone, introduce newcomers, girls, boys, kittens, no problem.
BUT
My neutered male moggie, he hates the sight of. Very serious tussling, fur flying and scratching with both of them sporting scabs the next day.
My moggie loves everyone as well, apart from....

Suffice to say they are kept separate as far as humanly possible but sometimes they get past me.
I cannot ever imagine them getting along.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:47 am 
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I had a female cat for 16 yrs, when she was approx 12yrs old we took in a stray, the stray was very docile and got one well with us, she even got on with the male stray we had, after a short time the male died, and the fighting got bad between the females, we tried to keep them apart.

The way you can do it is to get a seperate room prepared for the newcomer and occasionally put him in a cat carrier and introduce him to the other cat, and vice versa, see how they both react. or you can just basically let them in together from day one and see how they do.

good luck with the union.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:48 am 
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Thanks for all your advice. The owner's said she's quite happy with the trial period suggestion - naturally she's anxious to make sure her cat settles in happily and if not she'll take him back, which is altogether the most sensible solution for both the cats and us.

Just wondering, how can you tell between cats when there ARE an issues? When my sister's male cat (unfixed) is around Zebedee, he terrorises him. The looks he shoots him are evil!!! The last time, he attacked poor Zeb so ferociously there were clumps of white fur (Zebedee's) all over the carpet and my OH was incandescent with rage - more out of shock and fear that Zeb may have been seriously hurt. It shook Zebedee up pretty badly and for hours he was withdrawn and subdued. I felt SO guilty. With my mum's female (spayed) cat though, Zebedee is just his ordinary mischievious self. There isnt any aggression, just lots of chasing, occasional growling but then they happily curl up together to sleep. Yet they dont see each other any more than Zebedee sees Meko (my sis's cat).

Is the aggression because Meko's unneutered? We initially assumed it was because they were both male, and so I always assumed 1 of each sex was better than two boys....?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:31 pm 
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An entire male will try to take over, nature of the beast so to speak.

Two neutered males can get on, it is worth the try. Sorry ladies but females are the worst pairing, particularly if one or both are not speyed; I don't think any breeder will disagree.

One potential issue is that if one of the cats doesn't like the situation he may go walkabout, so be prepared to keep doors closed at least for a while.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:46 pm 
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I would keep them separate for about two hours..
let the newby sniff around the room of your choice, then once he is a little settled place him in a pen/cage ( like a large dog crate is good..for a while so your other cat can come and see him..they will hiss for a while..
you can gradually put the feed bowls next to each other ( one in the cage & one out )
for about a week or two, they will probably hate each other.. but at least while your all together they cant damage one another.. they will start sniffing each other and maybe you could use a cat toy so they play together -
It maybe an idea to trim their claws while they are asleep too.. save inflicting damage on each other...
once they look a little more settled, let them together.. but keep a close eye on the pair of them..

they 'should' be fairly settled after 3 wks... :D


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Why can't you just get an older(fixed) girl bengal? Do you have a preference for the males? The mix might be better.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:35 pm 
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Crystal wrote:
Why can't you just get an older(fixed) girl bengal? Do you have a preference for the males? The mix might be better.


Hi Crystal, ideally I had wanted a female older cat but it was just a matter of finding one. I've spoken to a few breeders in the past with retired queens but a lot of them wanted to send them to 'only cat' homes for various reasons. And for a while I just stopped looking until I decided to put a deposit on a (female) kitten.

Well the latest is, after much deliberation and having spoken to my vet who is also a close friend, my OH and I have decided not to take this particular cat through no fault of his. The main reason is because the cat has had problems socialising with local elderly DSH's which is why he is being rehomed and so I have strong doubts he will be happy LIVING with another cat, bengal or no bengal. Also, whilst I considered the trial period, the cat has been rehomed 3 times already so I feel it would be unfair of me to put him through another upheaval unless I was absolutely certain, judging by what I know of his personality from his owner, that I was offering him his ideal, permanent home. And given his situation, whilst we can never really know how an animal will adapt to a situation until putting it into it, I think it would be fair to assume he would prefer to be the only cat.

It is heartbreaking as I would have loved to have offered this beautiful cat a home but it wasn't to be :( The most important thing is, we do the most responsible thing by the cats and act in their best interests (or so I keep reminding myself when I'm tempted to think 'sod it, i'll train him to like Zeb!!!').

Thanks everyone for your advice - it's so reassuring to know there are so many people I can turn to who will never tire of my constant cat dilemmas :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:45 pm 
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well good luck with your search. I hope you find a new friend soon. :)


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it sounds like a sensible decision given his history. poor soul, i hope he finds his perfect home soon.
is he in a home at the moment waiting to move or in rescue? have they contacted bengal welfare?

as for yourself, the right cat for you will turn up soon i'm sure :wink: have you tried bengal welfare too? definately worth a try, you can find retired breeders or pets that need new homes that way.

keep us posted on your progress.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:35 pm 
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The lady with the cat actually posted on here in the adult cats section, I dont know if she has contacted bengal welfare, but i'll advice her..i'm sure she'll find him a nice home, she seems very responsible and concerned. As for moi, the search continues but i'm sure in good time the right cat or kitten will find me! After reading about that poor little kitten in my local paper I'm tempted to just go and rescue one (or two or three... :lol: ) because those are the ones that usually end up stuck in rescue shelters for too long. The Aby breeder also left me a msg about her kitten, she lives locally and usually has a few older ex breeding queens, they're all really well socialised and live in her home with her family and 10 other cats so I might just ask her again too. In the meantime, Zebby has taken to jumping into bed with me at 5 am every morning and licking me until I can drag myself out of bed to play!! Sometimes makes me wonder if he'll start neglecting me when he gets his new playmate!!! :roll:

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Hi all, with regard to Dexter, I've been in touch with his breeder who has offered to help me find a suitable home. Which is very kind of her. So watch this space. He may be in a loving 'forever home' soon.

I'll be so sad to see him go :-( but happy if I know it's the right place for him.

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