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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:49 pm 
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Hello everybody,

my girlfriend and I bought our first bengal 13 months ago (she's now 16 months old) and we would need your advice on the current situation/problem...

Nala, like many bengal I guess, is EXTREMELY vocal and she always want to go outside. She looks at the window or the door and she can stay there for 30 minutes meowing non-stop.

We do bring her outside from time to time (not everyday) but even if we do when we get back inside the house... she's gonna find something else to meow about and it's so consistent that I have a really hard time working on my laptop because I feel bad and it's distracting.

I have an online business and before we had Nala... I was working 25% of the time from home but since we got her ... it's impossible because if I close the door she's gonna meow until I open the door and if I do open the door she's gonna moew at the window.

So lately... we are kinda sad because she looks to be "sad" even tho we do our best to play with her.

So we were thinking about maybe buying a second one so she can have a friend to hangout with and spend time with but before making the move I would like you guys to analyze the situation and maybe give me some feedback about having a second one.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:16 pm 
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nalathebengal12 wrote:
Hello everybody,

my girlfriend and I bought our first bengal 13 months ago (she's now 16 months old) and we would need your advice on the current situation/problem...

Nala, like many bengal I guess, is EXTREMELY vocal and she always want to go outside. She looks at the window or the door and she can stay there for 30 minutes meowing non-stop.

We do bring her outside from time to time (not everyday) but even if we do when we get back inside the house... she's gonna find something else to meow about and it's so consistent that I have a really hard time working on my laptop because I feel bad and it's distracting.

I have an online business and before we had Nala... I was working 25% of the time from home but since we got her ... it's impossible because if I close the door she's gonna meow until I open the door and if I do open the door she's gonna moew at the window.

So lately... we are kinda sad because she looks to be "sad" even tho we do our best to play with her.

So we were thinking about maybe buying a second one so she can have a friend to hangout with and spend time with but before making the move I would like you guys to analyze the situation and maybe give me some feedback about having a second one.

Thanks


Welcome to the forum... and welcome to the club of being taken advantage of by your furry ball ;)

This subject seems to upset many Bengal owners who gave their cats a chance to experience the outdoors. And it has been covered here on this forum often.

I'm not going to advise you to get another cat, yet. Because you may end up with an unsolved problem if not twice the problem. Let's start working on your existing issue first. But first make sure that she's not sick or require a vet visit because all the nagging may be a result from illness or hunger. If you role out both, I have few suggestions:

1) CATNIP
After my Snickers being an angel over the past few months since I got her, she started earlier this week becoming too vocal and demanding to my attention often. I started adding catnip to her food. I just sprinkle the catnip on the top (as if you're adding pepper to your steak). And the catnip worked like magic!!! It got her more relaxed, less needy and far less vocal. So give it a shot. Get the powder from any pet store.

2) CATIFICATION
I'm sure you have enough toys to keep her busy indoors. But consider buying her
A) a cat wheel. There are about three to four in the market depending where you live. Make sure to read reviews online about each because some have better reviews than others. And one type in particular reaches 500 USD bit see,s to have the best reliability reviews. Regardless of the type you get, majority of Bengal & Savannah owners swear how the wheel drains the energy of their cats.
B) NANO HEXBUG
I learned about this today. They're cheap finger size robots, come in packs that can entertain your cat for a very long time. Make sure you get the Nano as they're very reliable and last long. The other models they have have bad reviews on Amazon.

3) TV BINI
Subscribe to TV BINI channel on YouTube and start a playlist for your cat to enjoy graphic/comic insects running on the screen. Snickers love it and starts chasing the insects on the screen till I turn it off.

4) PETS
Yes, I may sound crazy but you may consider buying a pet for your cat. Be it aquarium fish, birds or Sugar Gliders. I don't recommend the last one since they need much attention from their owners. Of course whatever pet you're getting needs to be protected, I'm not talking here about Pet Feeds or so. Any pet you choose needs to be low maintenance and active to keep your cat busy and entertained looking at it. That said, parrots won't do you good since they're idle most of the time. Get Zebra Finch for example, very low cost and always active in the cage.

5) WALKS/DRIVES
Since your cat had a taste of the outdoors, take her out on a leash on drives or walks whenever you can.

Now, if all of the above don't work... buzz me to work on getting her a cat companion. ;)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:32 am 
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Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a rich reply!!

I will try a few of these options first...

Here's a few things we tried that you mentioned:

1. as much as she loves going outside (we recently moved out and she used to be on the 4th level of a condo) so now she's extremely careful when we bring her outside and she barely move. She used to love going outside on our fourth floor because of the sun as well as waiting for a fly to come inside the condo and then we would close the door and she would chance the fly for 5 mintues ... kill it and then eat it. She could repeat this process all day long .. as long as we had fly coming in (by purpose haha)

2. we probably bought her over 20 toys and .. none really do the job expect a laser but I feel like she would lose interest overtime if I abuse it because she can't catch it... we even tried two "robot" (probably too cheap tho .. $50 / each)

I will test some of your ideas and if anybody has more example ideas or things that worked for me them... let me know :)

Thanks


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:39 am 
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Also... what are my chances that my bengal actually love the cat wheel lol?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:53 am 
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why on earth would you get a small animal as a 'pet' for your bengal?

to me that just screams animal cruelty, a bird tormented day in day out by a bengal stalking it - they aren't aware that the cage is safe (and to be honest I'm not that sure it is safe from a bengal) - if it's not dead of a heart attack within a week then it will spend it's life in misery

if you think animal cruelty on this level is acceptable then I don't believe you should own any pet

<end rant>


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:39 am 
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nalathebengal12 wrote:
Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a rich reply!!

I will try a few of these options first...

Here's a few things we tried that you mentioned:

1. as much as she loves going outside (we recently moved out and she used to be on the 4th level of a condo) so now she's extremely careful when we bring her outside and she barely move. She used to love going outside on our fourth floor because of the sun as well as waiting for a fly to come inside the condo and then we would close the door and she would chance the fly for 5 mintues ... kill it and then eat it. She could repeat this process all day long .. as long as we had fly coming in (by purpose haha)

2. we probably bought her over 20 toys and .. none really do the job expect a laser but I feel like she would lose interest overtime if I abuse it because she can't catch it... we even tried two "robot" (probably too cheap tho .. $50 / each)

I will test some of your ideas and if anybody has more example ideas or things that worked for me them... let me know :)

Thanks


Please note that the Nano Hexbug comes five in a pack and cost only 16 USD:
https://www.amazon.com/HEXBUG-Nano-Nitr ... ano+HexBug

As for the toys you bought, please note Bengals love interactive toys that can be categorized in two types:
1) either toys you play with to entertain your Bengal, like the Cat Dancer that ranks at the top.
2) or toys that feed their curiosity below are links to related items:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FZF3OEO/_e ... FEU324EO00

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BCPIKI0/_e ... FEU324EO00

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009R3SFBC/_e ... FEU324EO00

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002AT5AO/_e ... FEU324EO00

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000IYSAIW/_e ... FEU324EO00

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016H3T8EC/_e ... FEU324EO00

As for your other post concerning the wheel, some owners stated that it took a while to encourage the Bengal to use it at first, some stated their Bengals immediately got used to it. Please read the online reviews carefully. Most of the complaints are from owners who own other breeds of cats, not Bengals.

I hope this helps.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:00 am 
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Hobbit Feet wrote:
why on earth would you get a small animal as a 'pet' for your bengal?

to me that just screams animal cruelty, a bird tormented day in day out by a bengal stalking it - they aren't aware that the cage is safe (and to be honest I'm not that sure it is safe from a bengal) - if it's not dead of a heart attack within a week then it will spend it's life in misery

if you think animal cruelty on this level is acceptable then I don't believe you should own any pet

<end rant>


Kindly either give me the benefit of the doubt and feel free to question and comment without accusations or rants, or refrain from commenting or addressing any of my posts in the future. This is the second time you act offensively on one of my posts and attack me in person.

However, in respect to the community here I'll once again ignore your offense and address your concern politely.

Kindly note there are many cat owners who have already birds and fish in their households, and successfully managed to safeguard their pets. That includes members here among us on this forum.

Kindly note that I highlighted in my post above that these pets are not to be treated as feeders and to be kept safe.

Kindly note that an aquarium can be be fully protected from cats 100% with cover, size and location where the cat can enjoy looking at the aquarium or interacting safely with the fish outside the acquarium (yes there are are types of fish that do interact and follow pets and humans movement). Feel free check related forums for insight that you lack.

Kindly note that bird cages can be hung from the ceiling, out of reach from a cat, or kept safely in a bird aviary indoors or outdoors. Feel free to check related forums and reviews of those who manage wuccessfully doing so. Let along there are plenty of cases where certain bird species can become friends with cats. Feel free to check YouTube, IG, Facebook or other social media online along with vets and animal behavior specialists.

Kindly next time take a deep breath before you address one of my posts and don't jump ranting and accusing me. I have raised pets since I was a a child successfully be it from cats, dogs, fish, birds, rabbits... etc.

Thank you...


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:09 am 
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Well said Hassaan. I think perhaps your comments were misconstrued unfortunately.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:15 am 
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HassaanAbdeen wrote:
Hobbit Feet wrote:
why on earth would you get a small animal as a 'pet' for your bengal?

to me that just screams animal cruelty, a bird tormented day in day out by a bengal stalking it - they aren't aware that the cage is safe (and to be honest I'm not that sure it is safe from a bengal) - if it's not dead of a heart attack within a week then it will spend it's life in misery

if you think animal cruelty on this level is acceptable then I don't believe you should own any pet

<end rant>


Kindly either give me the benefit of the doubt and feel free to question and comment without accusations or rants, or refrain from commenting or addressing any of my posts in the future. This is the second time you act offensively on one of my posts and attack me in person.

However, in respect to the community here I'll once again ignore your offense and address your concern politely.

Kindly note there are many cat owners who have already birds and fish in their households, and successfully managed to safeguard their pets. That includes members here among us on this forum.

Kindly note that I highlighted in my post above that these pets are not to be treated as feeders and to be kept safe.

Kindly note that an aquarium can be be fully protected from cats 100% with cover, size and location where the cat can enjoy looking at the aquarium or interacting safely with the fish outside the acquarium (yes there are are types of fish that do interact and follow pets and humans movement). Feel free check related forums for insight that you lack.

Kindly note that bird cages can be hung from the ceiling, out of reach from a cat, or kept safely in a bird aviary indoors or outdoors. Feel free to check related forums and reviews of those who manage wuccessfully doing so. Let along there are plenty of cases where certain bird species can become friends with cats. Feel free to check YouTube, IG, Facebook or other social media online along with vets and animal behavior specialists.

Kindly next time take a deep breath before you address one of my posts and don't jump ranting and accusing me. I have raised pets since I was a a child successfully be it from cats, dogs, fish, birds, rabbits... etc.

Thank you...


your post did not deal with introducing a cat/kitten into a home with existing small animals (I'm totally on board with that), it suggested buying one specifically to entertain your existing cat

I take animal welfare very seriously, all animals that is

rationalise it as much as you like but I find it totally unnacceptable

edit - my cat that has access to the outdoors (not the bengal) brings home woodpigeons, mice, voles, squirrels etc. - this is nature, what I don't do is provide him with a smorgasbord of small domestic animals for him to attempt to torment and feast on


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:44 am 
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Hi there

Do you have the Bengal 'must haves' ie, flying frenzy, cat trees etc?

Bengals are very social and want to be with you - do you have a cat tree in your study with a view of the window? It may be an idea to totally wear her out with a game of flying frenzy prior to you working at home - and I mean wear her out!! To the point she is panting!

Cat treat toys to keep her busy when you need to get on with work?

Catit toys are very good, particularly the super sensor roller. And keep rotating the toys so she doesn't get bored.

It's all very well getting another Bengal kitten but left on their own, two can be very destructive if they get bored. We'd come home and think we had a couple of teenagers who had an out of control party, surround sound speakers knocked flying, everything knocked off the hall shelving, their toy box ransacked. They would literally tear around the house chasing each other and woe betide anything that got in their way lol

We now let ours outside during the day and we have no issues, but this all depends on your cat and the area you live in, if there are busy roads etc - everything needs to be taken into consideration.

I hope some of this helps.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:35 pm 
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First of all, welcome to our forum. Second of all, this is generally a friendly place to be. Sometimes a member's post is misconstrued by another member or taken personally. One must always reread their post and make sure it will not offend most other members before hitting "submit."

Now ... you have a bengal and they are extremely vocal as you have found out. You said you were on the 4th floor. Are you still high up or do you now have a garden area where you might put an enclosure for your cat (portable or permanent, large or small). Yowling seems to be part of owning a bengal and I have a real yowler. Have you tried training her on a harness and leash and walking her? You take her outside, but is she confident not being connected to you?

As for getting other creatures for her as a companion -- other bengals work best, but then you have two yowlers. Know that bengals are highly social and want to be where their owners are. Shutting a door with them on the opposite side is surely going to create a stir with the kitty -- she wants to be WITH you and demanding attention. Yes, bengals demand attention. This is why we say bengals are not for everyone. If you wanted a kitty who would sleep 20 hours a day and not create a sound -- then a regular kitty or different breed would have been in order. You will never quiet a bengal -- NEVER. Mine is only quiet while he is sleeping, eating, grooming himself or while we are out on our twice-daily walks.

As for a cat wheel -- ours has one. Just go on YouTube and check out all the videos of cats walking on them. Initially you would need something to attract the cat -- laser beam works as do treats. Ours gets on his wheel almost daily and spins it around for a while. Many times, it is 1 a.m. in the morning.

I know you are frustrated, but a bengal is not going to change, thus it's up to the owner to try and rectify the situation. More play time, or other interactive toys or puzzles for your kitty. Spend as much spare time with the kitty. You might want to put a nice comfortable cat bed or window perch in your office.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:01 pm 
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Please read posts thoroughly on this thread before making accusatory comments against other members. People will obviously have differing opinions but please try to respond in a civil and respectful manner.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:50 pm 
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I got my year old bengal several cat activity puzzles (some for dogs too). They keep her entertained for quite awhile. She's now figured out most of them (pull the drawer, slide the lever, move blocks from side to side, knock the ball over, etc) so I've got some expert ones on the way. I did hang a bird feeder about 2 feet from a window. She spends a LOT of time sitting on a perch by the window watching them. The bird feeder was probably the best thing I got to keep her entertained for hours. I do have another cat and am getting a F1 in about a month. When I'm on the computer she is usually sitting by the window bird watching. Win-Win!!! Will think of other things to try.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:16 pm 
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Bengals are actually prone to boredom! They don't sleep all day. They are active and need interaction with someone or something. It's just the breed.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:23 am 
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I just ordered the hexbug! Thanks for the suggestion! Our Koneko always seems to want to be into something. Keep in mind, he has 3 other cats to play with. We also have a 15 foot running board that my husband built and installed, when I figure out how to post pics, I can show u. Sisal rope for scratching and a floor to ceiling cat tree to access the runner. Our other 3 cats are meezers, Siamese, and also like high places. Jackson Galaxy would call them tree dwellers! Although 2 of them are recent rescues, a local pet shelter was trying to place 5 cats from a lady that had alzheimers and needed to be placed in a home. We took 2 of her 5. They are both elderly and do not care for high climbing. Wonton however, is a Siamese rescue that's only 3 years old. He is Koneko's close buddy. We also have a screened in deck, all of them love to be outside and look into the koi pond off our deck. Plenty of fish and birds to keep them occupied. They are ALL escape artists however. I take them out on harness and leash, but its never enough. Any chance they get, they pry open the screen door and run loose.


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