Don't forget, this is a living thing that is waiting for a new home, NOT a dining table or some other commodity.
Shopping around for the best price shouldn't even enter into it.
If I'm seriously interested in a kitten I've seen on a website, I wouldn't think twice to phone up or email and ask LOTS of questions as well as the price.
Some people just think it vulgar to state the price on their website for a little kitten.
If you suspect that a breeder (or 'dealer' as you put it), is just "seeing what they can get out of each particular buyer", then it's simple to walk away as they aren't in it for the love.
I really don't see what your hang up about this is.

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The people who think its vulgar to put a price on a little kitten are the same people making money out of little kittens?
The scone time I've been picked up on saying dealer instead of breeder, whats your hang up about that?

Like i previously said, some transparency in the adverts/websites would be great, i don't want to have to phone up to find out pretty basic information (chipping included/vaccinations/de-sexing/price) and thats why i won't phone any of these.

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Lollo

I must admit that's my only gripe that I want to know the price because it saves me a lot of time.

When I was looking for my Bengal it was a nightmare, waiting for people to get back to me and then finding out I couldn't afford the kittens. It was very frustrating.

I found a very reputable breeder (nearly typed dealer then ) who did quote her prices (£500) which I was happy to pay and in fact I think that's an excellent price given that they have full vaccinations etc.

Anyway this is my last post on the matter as don't wish to upset anybody. Let's just say we'll have to agree to disagree.

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RIP my sweet baby Dexter, Snow Bengal 19/5/14 to 5/3/15 and my lovely dear old friend Muskey, Brown Burmese put to rest aged 15 on 14/11/15.

Debbie

Of course it is everyone's personal opinion as to the type of breeder, they want to give their hard earned cash to.

But i tend to agree with Lollo that many who display prices as if that is the most important thing about the kitten, are not breeders I would ever buy a kitten from.

Personally when looking for a kitten I looked at the kitten itself first, no point in pursuing anything if the kitten itself doesn't look good. I would then look at the parents, look at the pedigree, look at the cattery set up, much can be gleaned just by looking at the pics on the website, I would try then to make my mind as to whether I was really that interested.
I would look at hundreds of kittens on the net before making any decisions, getting a good example of the breed is priority for me.
If I decided I was interested, then I would email first ask if the kitten is still available, no point in wasting a breeder's time, and then make a "date" to phone them up at a prearranged time to speak to them about the kitten.
You pay your money and you take your choice, but choosing on price alone and phoning around dozens of breeders to see who is cheapest, is a dreadful way to choose a kitten IMO.

When I was breeding and selling kittens, anyone whose first question was price was immediately binned.

I would assume most of the breeders are making money, i would also assume the Breeders with well built websites (and in large with no price listed) are making the most.

What you have just posted is that people who put a price on the kittens make money and the ones who don't, don't, did you read that back to yourself before you posted it?

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Lollo

I think you are taking everything personally. I did not say Breeders with websites are more expensive, however you were right to assume that that was what i was getting at, of course i phoned a few of them up thats why i am commenting about it, i phoned 3 Breeders up and after asking many questions and obviously sounding interested to the Breeder i then asked the price and was given 1 price of £800, 1 of £750, and one of £500.

£750 and £800 were unreasonable and i believe the Breeder's heard my excitement after answering the questions to then give me an inflated price, and i believe the reason they did this is because they thought they had 'sold' the cat to me and so they thought they could say any price they wanted and i would buy it, and thats why they don't list the price - because they are salesmen who set the price based on the emotions of the buyer.
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f someone can give me a different reasonable reason why there is no price on these Breeders websites i will gladly take it.

I wanted the kitten that was £500, and i made arrangements to go and see the kitten on the saturday (it was a wednesday) but the Breeder sold it on the friday (i have no issue with this, i didn't place a holding deposit as i wanted to see it first)

All 3 cats were similarly marked and all were registered with Vaccinations and flea/worm done, neutering not included and papers forwarded on completion of neutering

I think you are wrong to assume that they pick a price dependent on how interested you are. Maybe that reflects on how you think more than how the breeder thinks. Cat breeding is not about getting the maximum for a kitten you think a buyer can afford. It's about finding the best home for your kitten. The home that will provide the love and care needed. I had some very excited people on my list for a kitten, so using your theory I should or could have charged them a lot more.... Simply does not happen with reputable breeders.

I am around many, many breeders at cats shows and I know very well that they don't do that. Not the reputable breeders anyhow.

I would never book a visit for a kitten and then sell the kitten to another person who managed to get there sooner. I'm not sure I agree with doing that. I allow people to view my kittens in the order they enquire for them. I tell them up front how many people are ahead of them in the queue and what kittens are available to choose from.

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Lollo

You certainly shouldn't be charging the most you think someone should pay, as you have suggested you should have a set price, what i can't get my head around is why this set price is a secret? i guess i will never understand.

£800 and £750 were unreasonable for the kittens i was looking at, i will never know if these were the price's that the Breeder's wanted or if they inflated the price because they knew i wanted the kitten, but i think we both know that the price i was given was to much.

With regards to the person not holding the kitten for me to view i have no problem with that, they told me they had someone coming to look at the remainder of the litter and they wouldn't hold any kitten unless a deposit was placed, the people who viewed wanted the same one i wanted so they took him.

After the disappointing experience with what i believe to be inflated prices i shall not phone anyone who doesn't list a price as IMO the only plausible reason there isn't a price is because they make it up as they go along.

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