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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:48 pm 
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So this past 3 weeks has been an experience. Ares is the most awesome cat i have ever had. Everything with him is intense. He greets me like my Siamese never would. He's so loyal and protective even as a small kitten. He follows me everywhere and comes when i call him. My buddy and I were wrestling around and Ares decided he was being too rough so he growled in a voice i didn't even know he had and tried his hardest to get him off me. It was hilarious. He joins me in the shower, almost got trapped in the toilet a few times, and is more likely to knock over the water bowl than drink out of it. He's more like a dog than a cat and everyday with him confirms my reasoning for getting an F1. Can't wait to see him grow into an even more awesome cat.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:01 pm 
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He is beautiful!!!!!!!! I'm so happy he's working out for you. Your Siamese is gorgeous, too.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:14 am 
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Sherry wrote:
He is beautiful!!!!!!!! I'm so happy he's working out for you. Your Siamese is gorgeous, too.

Thank you so much i appreciate it. I love them both dearly.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:31 pm 
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Absolutely beautiful! So is the Siamese, I have a weakness for them.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:57 pm 
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He sounds like a handful! You have two gorgeous cats!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:23 pm 
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Hey,

Looks like you have a bodyguard there!

Very handsome chap, hope he continues to delight you every day.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:51 pm 
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Damnfoolman wrote:
Hey,

Looks like you have a bodyguard there!

Very handsome chap, hope he continues to delight you every day.

Davie
Lol I guess he really is. Thank you and I hope he does too.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:05 pm 
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I have 3 F3s and they all do some of the things you described and are pretty cool looking, too. But DAMN I want an F1 now! :biggrin:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:21 pm 
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rcolman18 wrote:
I have 3 F3s and they all do some of the things you described and are pretty cool looking, too. But DAMN I want an F1 now! :biggrin:

Wow 3 F3s? I have no idea how you do that. Ares is a little monster and I couldn't imagine having another one let alone 2 more.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:10 pm 
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ilaney wrote:
rcolman18 wrote:
I have 3 F3s and they all do some of the things you described and are pretty cool looking, too. But DAMN I want an F1 now! :biggrin:

Wow 3 F3s? I have no idea how you do that. Ares is a little monster and I couldn't imagine having another one let alone 2 more.


Plus a Boston terrier. So 4 high-energy 15ish pound animals running around constantly. Helps to have a finished basement with lots of space and no kids to worry about.

Are you in the US? If so, where'd you get your little guy?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:42 pm 
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rcolman18 wrote:
ilaney wrote:
rcolman18 wrote:
I have 3 F3s and they all do some of the things you described and are pretty cool looking, too. But DAMN I want an F1 now! :biggrin:

Wow 3 F3s? I have no idea how you do that. Ares is a little monster and I couldn't imagine having another one let alone 2 more.


Plus a Boston terrier. So 4 high-energy 15ish pound animals running around constantly. Helps to have a finished basement with lots of space and no kids to worry about.

Are you in the US? If so, where'd you get your little guy?

Yes I'm a soldier at Fort Knox in Kentucky. I got him from Tecspot Bengals in Ohio. It wasn't a bad drive and my wife and I got to meet and pet her ALC Zuko so it was pretty cool.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:16 am 
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He is a gorgeous little guy. But I do have to say, my heart skipped a beat when I saw the pictures with him outside. You should really, REALLY be extremely careful of letting him outside - in fact, I would highly recommend you do not let him out like that at all without a proper harness or inside a fully enclosed cat-proof area. I'm only saying this because I genuinely don't want something bad to happen to him, I am sure you would be heartbroken... All it would take is one spook and he could take off, get hit by a car, etc. I have heard of many F1s escaping, never to be seen again. They are not like normal domestic cats when it comes to being let outside. Once matured, the chances of 'instincts' kicking in and him wanting to take off for good are very real. As I said, many F1s are never seen again if they escape... I would not let my F1 out of the house for ANYTHING. He is only allowed on our screened in porch, and even then, only when I am right there to supervise. Wish you the best of luck.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:26 pm 
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echoplexia wrote:
He is a gorgeous little guy. But I do have to say, my heart skipped a beat when I saw the pictures with him outside. You should really, REALLY be extremely careful of letting him outside - in fact, I would highly recommend you do not let him out like that at all without a proper harness or inside a fully enclosed cat-proof area. I'm only saying this because I genuinely don't want something bad to happen to him, I am sure you would be heartbroken... All it would take is one spook and he could take off, get hit by a car, etc. I have heard of many F1s escaping, never to be seen again. They are not like normal domestic cats when it comes to being let outside. Once matured, the chances of 'instincts' kicking in and him wanting to take off for good are very real. As I said, many F1s are never seen again if they escape... I would not let my F1 out of the house for ANYTHING. He is only allowed on our screened in porch, and even then, only when I am right there to supervise. Wish you the best of luck.


I would agree, your normal domestic cat tends to remain a kitten most of its life. We as humans, have in the course of domestication chosen cats that do this, they rely on us, stay close by and become great pets.
Neutering helps too, but a lot of the true independence seeking instinct of domestic cats has been stifled by the process of domestication. Selection of cats over generations as pets has made it that way. Your normal domestic may be somewhat independent but most will basically stick around its humans for life if circumstances allow it to do so.

An ALC hybrid, will want to stick around for its kittenhood and early adulthood, but once adult its instinct is to leave the family home and carve out its own life and that is why it is not advisable to have it free ranging, as one day it will just disappear to forge its own path as an adult.
Of course its kittenhood in the domestic home is not spent with adults that will teach it everything it needs to know to survive in the wild. It may even have been hand reared as most F1 kittens are. Thus, an escapee's chances of surviving long term in the wild may be limited. It has the instinct but few of the coping mechanisms.

This desire for independence in adulthood I think explains the fact why many EGs turn "challenging" at 2-3 years of age. Some may inherit more of a domestic personality but the % of wild genes in EG hybrids means that the wild personality and instinct is often dominant.
These EG cats can be seen as great pets as kittens and young adults because they exhibit the clinging nature of kittens, they rely on us, they "love" us and we as humans like that, but when they grow up, their truly independent streak can come to the fore and that is often when the trouble starts in the domestic home.

The intense bonding and frankly neurotic behaviours (that many EG owners report) may be an abnormal reaction to stress in these cats, as their desire for independence once adult is curtailed and prohibited. Territorial marking, destructive behaviours, yowling, withdrawal, and pacing are very common behaviours reported. I also see any attempt to "force" them to act like a normal domestic cat, can be met with fear or even fear aggression.
The continual need to reinforce the bond to keep them "on side",(also reported), can be a bit wearing for EG owners too, but I think stems from the fact the cat is basically unstable and unsure where it fits into the unnatural position it finds itself in. In the worst case scenario you have a cat that has outgrown its home, wants to seek pastures new and live independently, but is forced to stay put.
I think to have a truly good working relationship with a EG, where both sides are truly happy, needs a huge amount of continuing commitment and understanding from the owner, not just for one or two years, but for the entire life of the cat. It is why the most apparently successful EG owners appear to have a 24/7 relationship with their EG.

I believe that although very many *Bengals fit well into domestic homes, I do recognise some of the issues highlighted in some Bengals too.

*The true definition of a Bengal being an SBT or an F4 or greater, generation cat.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:35 pm 
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Thanks for the advice and you concern. I will surely keep it in mind. However, he's not roaming freely outside. He decided to follow me to the car to get my wallet so I decided to snap a couple pictures. It was over the span of maybe 20 seconds. It was his first time being outside out of his carrier and it is not something I'm willing to let happen all the time. I am however thinking of walking him with a harness when he's bigger but for the next year or so he's going to live in his room safely away from the dangers of the world. Again thanks for the advice as I would be devastated to lose him.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:08 pm 
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Can we see what this kitten looks like now??????


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